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Old 04-24-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Raises an old question again, would homosexuals even want to be straight if it were possible to make them straight
Speaking for me - I wouldn't even consider it for a second.

 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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Speaking for me - I wouldn't even consider it for a second.
Although I am straight, I can understand you. It would be like changing one's persona all of a sudden. Today your are attracted to your own sex, and tomorrow to the opposite...
 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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Raises an old question again, would homosexuals even want to be straight if it were possible to make them straight

Anyone, if hormone problems are the cause of homosexuality I guess it would make sense - strictly from a natural standpoint - if those mothers had kids that are less likely to reproduce and carry over that hormone problem to the next generation.
If there was a hormonal cause for homosexuality, does this mean that homosexuality is abnormal?
 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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If there was a hormonal cause for homosexuality, does this mean that homosexuality is abnormal?
No - the opposite.

It means it's biologically caused, perfectly natural, and normal.


A quote from LuckyGem's article:

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People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals accuses them of trying to "cure" homosexuality. Not true. Roselli and OHSU's publicist, Jim Newman, have spent months dousing this fire. Roselli has never said or written anything against homosexuality. In fact, he has said that studies suggesting a biological basis for homosexuality tend to encourage tolerance.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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No - the opposite.

It means it's biologically caused, perfectly natural, and normal.


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"People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals accuses them of trying to "cure" homosexuality. Not true. Roselli and OHSU's publicist, Jim Newman, have spent months dousing this fire. Roselli has never said or written anything against homosexuality. In fact, he has said that studies suggesting a biological basis for homosexuality tend to encourage tolerance."
I think there are other threads around here where you can debate this. Or you should create one, yet again. This is one of the most debated subjects on City Data.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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I think there are other threads around here where you can debate this. Or you should create one, yet again. This is one of the most debated subjects on City Data.
Says the poster who, in this thread, linked two articles about research into the biological basis of homosexuality.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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If there was a hormonal cause for homosexuality, does this mean that homosexuality is abnormal?
Well, in my view homosexuality is abnormal no matter what causes it. Abnormal as in deviating from the norm, which is being straight. But certainly it is not unnatural.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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Well, in my view homosexuality is abnormal no matter what causes it. Abnormal as in deviating from the norm, which is being straight. But certainly it is not unnatural.
That definition of "normal" renders the meaning of "normal" when discussing human characteristics meaningless.

What's the "normal" human height? Is it 5 feet, 4.28474293847324 inches? Wouldn't the "normal" human height be constantly changing as people are born and die, or since people tend to shrink as they age?

What's the "normal" shade of human hair color?


When using the word "normal" in relation to human characteristics, I think it's much more meaningful to use the definition of "normal" being "conforming to a common or regular type."

This is somewhat subjective, but I'd argue homosexual humans have been a "common" type of human as long as there have been humans.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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That definition of "normal" renders the meaning of "normal" when discussing human characteristics meaningless.

What's the "normal" human height? Is it 5 feet, 4.28474293847324 inches? Wouldn't the "normal" human height be constantly changing as people are born and die, or since people tend to shrink as they age?

What's the "normal" shade of human hair color?


When using the word "normal" in relation to human characteristics, I think it's much more meaningful to use the definition of "normal" being "conforming to a common or regular type."

This is somewhat subjective, but I'd argue homosexual humans have been a "common" type of human as long as there have been humans.
Hm, what is the percentage of homosexuals? 5%? When you take the tallest or shortest 5% of all people, I guess it is appropriate to say their height is not normal.
Anyway, let's not argue over the word normal. The key thing is that homosexuality is natural.
 
Old 04-24-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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No - the opposite.

It means it's biologically caused, perfectly natural, and normal.


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What about ex-gays, people who used to be homosexual but are now straight?
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