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Old 04-25-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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Please, go through my post history and point out anywhere that I said that.

My entire post history, starting from when I began this forum in 2007.

You'll notice that I've never claimed that.

What I said was that I believe in abortion up to "the point of viability".

As in, as soon as the fetus is viable, abortion is no longer an option.

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

My apologies then, I must have confused you with another poster.

 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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so you would rather a very immature girl who made on bad choice to become a parent and try to parent?

making a young girl go through pregnancy, have a baby and either raise it or give it up for adoption is child abuse, both mental and physical.
Parents, by not teaching their children what might be good or bad, is "child abuse" ..

If teens know that they'll be stuck with a kid .. they'll be less likely to make that "bad choice" ..
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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Pro-choice.

In the meaning of:

It's the mother's choice if she wants to keep it or not.

Pro-choice. Meaning that one of the choices that you support, when performed correctly, results in death 100% of the time. I asked this 5 pages ago, and have yet to have it answered. can anyone else name me another "right" that results in guaranteed death?
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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Parents, by not teaching their children what might be good or bad, is "child abuse" ..

If teens know that they'll be stuck with a kid .. they'll be less likely to make that "bad choice" ..
and hows that workin' so far?
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: NY, NY
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There should be no restrictions on abortions, with the exception of late term abortions, which should only be conducted when the mother's life is in jeopardy.

IMO, men have no right to influence laws on this subject. Until men can get pregnant, this is purely a woman's decision and should be decided by the gender that must bear the child to term or choose not to.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Pro-choice. Meaning that one of the choices that you support, when performed correctly, results in death 100% of the time. I asked this 5 pages ago, and have yet to have it answered. can anyone else name me another "right" that results in guaranteed death?
The question then gets to:

Who voice weighs more:

The fetus or the incubator?

Me, I go for the incubator.

And in many states, you have the right to self defense, which in many, many cases can result in death.

Killing=/=murder.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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what I want for myself or what any woman wants for herself is up to her. it isn't all about abortion there are two other choices. the point being the choice is up to the individual woman alone.

a traitor? I guess I could say the same about you if you want abortion illegal. do you want to force woman to be pregnant and give birth against their will? not any compassion in that thought now is there?

Abortion is a human rights issue, nothing more nothing less. There are no creatures less defensible then pre born babies, sadly you do not take into account about how they feel.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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There should be no restrictions on abortions, with the exception of late term abortions, which should only be conducted when the mother's life is in jeopardy.

IMO, men have no right to influence laws on this subject. Until men can get pregnant, this is purely a woman's decision and should be decided by the gender that must bear the child to term or choose not to.

The overwhelming majority of those in the pro-life movement are women. Not sure what a persons gender has to do with a grave human rights violation.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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your value and moral judgments are for you and your life. not mine or any other woman. you want to believe life begins at conception, fine. I can believe the same thing however it doesn't make a fetus at 6 weeks or 12 any more able to survive outside the womb. if a woman doesn't want to stay pregnant that is for her to decide, not me or you

I am a woman and mother of 2 children and believe the same thing. Just because one person sees abortion as wrong and horrible doesn't mean that everyone else does. You live your life and everyone else lives theirs.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Abortion is a human rights issue, nothing more nothing less. There are no creatures less defensible then pre born babies, sadly you do not take into account about how they feel.
Considering at the time of most abortions, they can't feel, then that's another one of those tricky "false dilemmas".

So, I do see it as a human rights issue.

The rights weighing more on the side doing the incubating rather the person sapping the nutrients and giving nothing back.
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