USDA to allow Monsanto to police itself. (lobbyists, lobby, job)

[lifelongMOgal]

Originally Posted by ergohead

I thought you didn't support Ron Paul?

Obviously, you don't know what I think.

[Konraden]

Originally Posted by Oerdin

I can't think of any reason this might go wrong. I mean self regulation has worked just so well in the past.

Well, the media does police itself, but the media doesn't destroy the Earth it lives on.

From what I remember, Monsato Corp. are the bastards who send armies of lawyers to destroy small farmers after neighboring farms cross-pollinate their crops--and there is literally nothing they can do about it.

I have very little issue with GMO foods--it's going to save us. The problem I have is with this ridiculous notion that corporations can trademark and copyright life. It's ridiculous. Can't wait until we have to sign away our rights when we want to have birth.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Konraden

I have very little issue with GMO foods--it's going to save us.

Tell us about it.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal

Obviously, you don't know what I think.

You know that I know you know I don't know what you think, but that doesn't change a thing.

[Konraden]

Originally Posted by ergohead

Tell us about it.

GM foods and crops provide the ability to increase yield and decrease grow time. That's important for places with shorter seasons. We can engineer crops to fight disease and pests, meaning fewer pesticides and insecticides. If we can remove fertilizer all together, we can remove the massive nitrogen-rich fields in the oceans and seas which resulted in toxic algae blooms.

Opposition to GM foods is voodoo. People see "glowing tomoatos" and think that we're all going to die. We aren't. Genetically modified foods have some of the most stringent testing of any foodstuff or source. I don't think you can create a legitimate argument against GM foods that doesn't involve the word "frankenfood."

Combine it with industrial scale hydroponics, and we could eliminate outdoor farms almost completely.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Konraden

GM foods and crops provide the ability to increase yield and decrease grow time. That's important for places with shorter seasons. We can engineer crops to fight disease and pests, meaning fewer pesticides and insecticides. If we can remove fertilizer all together, we can remove the massive nitrogen-rich fields in the oceans and seas which resulted in toxic algae blooms.

Opposition to GM foods is voodoo. People see "glowing tomoatos" and think that we're all going to die. We aren't. Genetically modified foods have some of the most stringent testing of any foodstuff or source. I don't think you can create a legitimate argument against GM foods that doesn't involve the word "frankenfood."

Combine it with industrial scale hydroponics, and we could eliminate outdoor farms almost completely.

The proverbial "Farm in a box" eh ?
The crops don't "fight" pests..they are laden with pesticides INSIDE THEM.
And now we have super weeds that have sprung up that cannot be killed by the current pesticides.

I'm 100% ALL FOR Monsanto taking their GMO seeds indoors for mass production. That would leave the soil to heal itself and non-gmo farmers free to plant their seeds in peace.

[cheryjohns]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

The proverbial "Farm in a box" eh ?
The crops don't "fight" pests..they are laden with pesticides INSIDE THEM.
And now we have super weeds that have sprung up that cannot be killed by the current pesticides.

I'm 100% ALL FOR Monsanto taking their GMO seeds indoors for mass production. That would leave the soil to heal itself and non-gmo farmers free to plant their seeds in peace.

That would be competition - which is being systematically destroyed.

When people start to die from Monsanto - here is the real question: will the media cover it to get ratings? or will they ignore it because the big advertiser is Monsanto?

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Konraden

GM foods and crops provide the ability to increase yield and decrease grow time. That's important for places with shorter seasons. We can engineer crops to fight disease and pests, meaning fewer pesticides and insecticides. If we can remove fertilizer all together, we can remove the massive nitrogen-rich fields in the oceans and seas which resulted in toxic algae blooms.

Opposition to GM foods is voodoo. People see "glowing tomoatos" and think that we're all going to die. We aren't. Genetically modified foods have some of the most stringent testing of any foodstuff or source. I don't think you can create a legitimate argument against GM foods that doesn't involve the word "frankenfood."

Combine it with industrial scale hydroponics, and we could eliminate outdoor farms almost completely.

You sound like a first year Libertarian, man.

[Konraden]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

The proverbial "Farm in a box" eh ?

The biggest problem with GM food is cross-pollination and potential environmental effects. Isolation of the GM foods from the environment eliminates this problem all together.

The crops don't "fight" pests..they are laden with pesticides INSIDE THEM.

False. Pesticides are chemical weapons. GM foods designed to fight pests at a genetic level. It would be no different than your immune system's response to pests and infections.

And now we have super weeds that have sprung up that cannot be killed by the current pesticides.

Wouldn't be an issue. Nature is prone to the slow speed of evolution. Human technology isn't.

I'm 100% ALL FOR Monsanto taking their GMO seeds indoors for mass production. That would leave the soil to heal itself and non-gmo farmers free to plant their seeds in peace.

Organic and natural farms can't provide the necessary food to feed the billions of people on Earth. Starvation could be ended overnight with GM foods.

Originally Posted by ergohead

You sound like a first year Libertarian, man.

How is that?

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Konraden

The biggest problem with GM food is cross-pollination and potential environmental effects. Isolation of the GM foods from the environment eliminates this problem all together.



False. Pesticides are chemical weapons. GM foods designed to fight pests at a genetic level. It would be no different than your immune system's response to pests and infections.



Wouldn't be an issue. Nature is prone to the slow speed of evolution. Human technology isn't.



Organic and natural farms can't provide the necessary food to feed the billions of people on Earth. Starvation could be ended overnight with GM foods.



How is that?

Dumb.