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Old 04-28-2011, 07:56 AM
 
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It's worse then that, 0bama wants to end the $4 billion or so tax subsides to US oil companies for drilling an exploration, and give that money away for solar and wind energy. But, he just loaned $2 billion to Brazil for oil exploration. As if we can power our automoblies, trains, planes and trucks with wind or solar.
Didn't he also just loan $3 billion to Columbia so they could build refineries?
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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I got a blister on my foot today. It's all Obama's fault. Even though my insurance premiums went up exactly the same amount percentage wise as they have for the last seven years, it's all Obamacare's fault. They forgot to put onions on my burger at Wendy's. It's all Obama's fault. Gas prices aren't quite as high as the highest point under Bush. It's all Obama's fault. I dropped my toothbrush in the toilet and had to buy a new one. It's all Obama's fault. I didn't have the sense to move my retirement into bonds when the stock market fell and then to move them back to stocks in anticipation of economic growth. It's all Obama's fault. My oatmeal was lumpy this morning. It's all Obama's fault. My head hurts from reading these tired threads over and over again. It's all Obama's fault.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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We give Brazil $2 billion so they can drill yet we are just going to sit around doing nothing about it?
Snopes: Mostly False. As the Snopes articles said, the Glenn Beck piece is false. Obama signed no such exec order. The $2 billion loan was under the Bush Admin.

Am I the only one who has the internet and can check facts?

Or is is that you're tuned only into the Obama Sux cable news network?
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn
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Bias, shmias, the quotes and videos do not lie.

You can find these same interviews from whatever web sites you feel are unbiased, but the quotes and videos will be the same.
maybe, but qoutes can be misused to morph someone's true intentions.
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I did not seek out these web sites, i did Google searches for 0bama quotes and from the news reports i have been hearing on the radio. I cannot help it if the left wing mainstream media reports on these issues do not show up near the top of the searches.
then maybe you should start looking for particular sites that don't just lean to one side.

Look, I don't like Obama either, but I certainly don't support conservatism either. This crisis started from that ideal in the first place.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Snopes: Mostly False. As the Snopes articles said, the Glenn Beck piece is false. Obama signed no such exec order. The $2 billion loan was under the Bush Admin.

Am I the only one who has the internet and can check facts?

Or is is that you're tuned only into the Obama Sux cable news network?
Their are many things that Bush approved that 0bama has canceled, and he chose not to get in the way of this one.

Bush is not the president any more, 0bama is, and he is really happy about oil... when it's produced in Brazil.

0bama: "The second place we want to partner with Brazil is on the issue of energy, which is why President Rousseff and I also agreed to launch a Strategic Energy Dialogue. By some estimates, the oil you recently discovered off the shores of Brazil could amount to twice the reserves we have in the United States. We want to work with you. We want to help with technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely, and when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers. At a time when we’ve been reminded how easily instability in other parts of the world can affect the price of oil, the United States could not be happier with the potential for a new, stable source of energy."

Sorry, the source is not from Fox News.

Remarks by the President at CEO Business Summit in Brasilia, Brazil | The White House

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Old 04-28-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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maybe, but qoutes can be misused to morph someone's true intentions.

then maybe you should start looking for particular sites that don't just lean to one side.

Look, I don't like Obama either, but I certainly don't support conservatism either. This crisis started from that ideal in the first place.
so quit obsessing with the politics of the web site I found my links on. It is not my fault that liberal leaning web sites do not like posting unflattering stories and videos of 0bama. But if people like me do not educate the left, they will be content to gulp the Kool-aid.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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High gas prices weren't Bush's fault then, and they aren't Obama's fault now. While Presidents throughout history have made a lot of noise about the subject, the reality is they have little, to no, control over the price of gas.

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Your presumption is that the rising cost of gasoline is caused by a shortage of gasoline or crude oil. It is not. There is ample supply of both. In fact, the Saudis just cut supply because there is too much on the market. Thus, increasing drilling (even if the government could force private companies to do so) won't make the price lower.

It's quite enlightening reading posts from conservatives complain about the price of a commodity entirely controlled by private companies and further complain that President Obama should intervene and cause it to be lower.

There are plenty of permits out there that oil cos have a right to drill. They don't because they don't need to flood the market with oil.
Yup, and domestic oil production is at it's highest levels since 2003.



Also, as stated before by others, it makes absolutely no difference if we produce more oil in the US or not. It is not the US's oil, it is the drilling company's oil, and they will still sell it on the open global market. If we doubled our oil production today, it isn't as if the price would come down for us. We are not Venezuela. The oil is not ours.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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The first statement is a complete lie and I had to stop there. Gas was $3.11 a gallon when Obama was sworn into office. Gas prices were soaring under Bush, while he and his big oil cronies were laughing all the way to the bank. Remember when you couldn't give away an SUV a few years ago? Obama got the prices down a few months after getting into office from the disastrous republican administration.

U.S. gas prices
you are so full of shyt along with your link:

Gas Price Historical Price Charts - GasBuddy.com

http://66.70.86.64/ChartServer/ch.gaschart?Country=Canada&Crude=f&Period=36&Areas =USA Average,,&Unit=US $/G (broken link)
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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Snopes: Mostly False. As the Snopes articles said, the Glenn Beck piece is false. Obama signed no such exec order. The $2 billion loan was under the Bush Admin.

Am I the only one who has the internet and can check facts?

Or is is that you're tuned only into the Obama Sux cable news network?
Snopes is no authority on ANYTHING. They have a left-wing bias and that is a fact. How does a mom and pop website get all this info? They use their buddies to get whatever info they want to further their agenda. That is completely obvious.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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High gas prices weren't Bush's fault then, and they aren't Obama's fault now. While Presidents throughout history have made a lot of noise about the subject, the reality is they have little, to no, control over the price of gas.

Yup, and domestic oil production is at it's highest levels since 2003.

Also, as stated before by others, it makes absolutely no difference if we produce more oil in the US or not. It is not the US's oil, it is the drilling company's oil, and they will still sell it on the open global market. If we doubled our oil production today, it isn't as if the price would come down for us. We are not Venezuela. The oil is not ours.
The point is that 0bama's action throughout his administration have been anti-energy. They have been halting both oil and coal production. Oil, gas, coal and electricity costs will skyrocket because of his policies.

0bama, and members in his administration have stated their goals were to cause energy prices to soar.

BTW, if increased oil production in the US would not lower oil prices, why has 0bama stated that he wanted to release the US strategic oil reserves to lower prices? Either the left and 0bama believe increased oil production lowers prices or it doesn't, but they seem to want it both ways.
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