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Old 04-28-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Oh my gosh, thanks Wapasha. Bu most of us do have eyes and ears i believe. How can anyone not see the high prices of Gasoline and Energy from this Administration and President, does not take a rocket scientiset to figure this one out. Clearly the prices of risen dramatically.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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While I don't think Obama is doing enough to curb these speculators on Wall Street, the difference between his watch and Bush's watch in 2008, is Bush didn't have 2 middle east governments collapse on him in 2008 and also, Obama isn't tied into the oil companies (hopefully he's not now, Bush was before he became president) like Bush was.....
however, I just want to hear Obama say he will do something about the behavior of the speculators and the Creep Executive Officers at the Oil Companies, otherwise, the right will be right in saying he wasn't much better, than Bush was, at controlling oil prices (at least here)...
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, USA
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We have oil reserves for times like these. Are we going to save it until it becomes useless?
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:50 AM
 
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Gas was $1.85/gal when 0bama was sworn in, now it is $3.85.gal, blame 0bama, because this is what he wants and this is what he gave us.
Do you not recall gasoline prices in the summer of 2008, when Bush was president?

It's amazing what people choose to remember, and forget.
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Gas was $1.85/gal when 0bama was sworn in, now it is $3.85.gal,
You fail at trolling.

http://rue8.com/_images/images-avec-clinton-and-bush-gas-prices.jpg (broken link)
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:57 AM
 
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Need a link to $1.85 gas. I haven' seen $1.85 gas in a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.


Gas prices fell during the flight to safety in late 2008, when we plunged into a severe recession.

Or if you were Phil Gramm, it was just a mental recession; none of it really happened.
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:59 AM
 
Location: North America
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Blame the crap that's going on in the middle east.
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Old 05-04-2011, 05:04 AM
 
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The POTUS has ALWAYS been blamed for high gasoline prices.

It's part of the job.

We can't give obama a pass simply because he is loved and adored and protected by the media.

He is to blame.
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Old 05-04-2011, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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1. Blame the FED for monitizing US debt.
2.Blame Obama and his appointees for refusing to allow new permits for traditional forms of energy production while applauding other countries producing.
I agree with point one but on the second I think the " drill baby drill crowd" and those who claim they are for the free market need to consider this:
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According to data from the Energy Department, starting last November -- with the exception of the month of January -- the U.S. began exporting more petroleum products than it imported.
In February, the U.S. exported 54,000 more barrels of petroleum products each day than it purchased abroad, with diesel and finished petrol leading the increase. According to the American Petroleum Institute, an industry group, U.S. refined product exports rose in the first quarter of 2011 to 2.49 million barrels per day, a 24.4 percent year-over-year increase, the Financial Times reports.
So that sort of kills the theory of 'drill baby drill" being the catch all of solving our problems. Now lets take a look at the currency issue that you rightly pointed out and the free market:
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"The U.S. is exporting quite a bit now to Latin American because the market's quite lucrative there and the reality is that they can get a better price by exporting it," said Nariman Behravesh, chief economist of IHS. "It's a free market, and if refiners can get higher prices in other parts of the world, they'll sell it. It's just the reality. It's the free market at work."
There you go all you who supposedly support the free market,sometimes it is a two edged sword. So how and why are they getting a better price :

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It's a sign that the dollar has gotten weak enough that it's actually starting to stimulate demand for the goods we produce here," said Scott Anderson, Senior Economist at Wells Fargo.
U.S. Becomes Net Exporter Of Fuel For First Time In Nearly 20 Years
So there you have it, we are suffering from a self inflicted gun shot wound. We go and vote for leaders that are in full support of the FR and it's monatary policies and when things back fire we look for scape goats to place the blame. You know where the trouble starts look in the mirror.
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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Even Pat Buchanan said presidents have no control over the price of Oil, if they did it would be called nationalizing it and you idiots would scream over that.
There is a big difference, in grades one does the best they can and earn the best that they can. With taxes, people who exploit others to make wealth take away opportunity from others in their exploitation. To make it a more equal situation you would have to have a learning environment where the top 5% grade holders have all the access to learning material and teachers and the rest have to scrap for the 10% of what remains. Then to ask the top 5% to give to those who did not have access to the majority of material it would be fair.
Yes he does. He cannot raise it daily, but his action has long term effect on our energy cost.

For example: he has been pushing for clean energy, but EPA deny any request to build solar or windmill. Or make the process really long and expensive.

Another example: He said energy independent, but will not allow any new drilling.
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