Why are Conservative, Tea Party States Like Mississippi and Alabama So Poor? (health care, statistics)

[newhandle]

One reason is they don't attract creative people in enough numbers to bring new life to them. Lots of people find the whole notion of the civil war being noble disgusting; its a turnoff.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by civic89

Almost every state south of VA aint sh#t. We should have let them secede back in the 1800's

Wow. Got a little bit of an inferiority complex, do we?

[Visvaldis]

The poor Red States prefer 'common sense' to book lernin'. And good ole time religion. What more can anyone want?

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by Backspace

This thread is talking about states that are poor and it's a fact that even though blacks make up a much smaller portion of the population than whites they make up a larger population of the poor than whites do. The states like Mississippi and Alabama have very large black populations which in turn means they have larger than normal poor populations.

That would be true EXCEPT THE POOREST REGIONS IN THE COUNTRY ARE

Counties in South Dakota mostly American Indian

Counties in mostly in Rio Grande Valley mostly Hispanic

Counties in Kentucky most White.

The reality is White Americans and Hispanic Americans account for 70% of the poor people in the United States.

Here is breakdown of poverty by numbers and percentage by racial group based on 2009 American Community Survey stats supplied by the U.S Census Bureau:

White Non-Hispanic:
Number Below the Poverty Level: 18.530 million
Percentage Below the Poverty Level vs. the Number of White Non-Hispanics: 9.4%

Black Alone:
Number Below the Poverty Level: 9.994 million
Percentage Below the Poverty Level vs. the Number of Black Alone: 25.8%

Hispanic Any Race:
Number Below the Poverty Level: 12.350 million
Percentage Hispanic Any Race Below the Poverty Level vs. the Number of Hispanic Any Race 25.3%

Asian:
Number Below the Poverty Level: 1.746 million
Percentage Asian Below the Poverty Level vs. the Number of Asian Alone: 12.5%

Here are the POOREST COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES BASED ON PER CAPTIA INCOME:

Lowest-income counties in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All Stats courtesty of U.S Census Bureau

Buffalo County, South Dakota
Per capita income: $5,213
Median household income: $19,182
Percentage High School Graduate: 63.9%
Percentage College Graduate: 5.4%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level: 37.7%
Native American: 79.2%
White Non-Hispanic: 17.3%

Shannon County, South Dakota
Per capita income: $6,286
Median household income: $25,867
Percentage High School Graduate age 25+:70.0%
Percentage College Graduate age 25+: 12.1%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level: 46.0%
Native American: 84.8%
White Non-Hispanic: 6.4%

Starr County, Texas
Per capita income: $7,069
Median household income: $23,929
Percentage High School Graduate age 25+: 34.7%
Percentage College Graduate age 25+: 6.9%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level:36.8%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin: 97.2%

Ziebach County, South Dakota
Per capita income: $7,463
Median household income: $25,592
Percentage High School Graduate age 25+: 71.4%
Percentage College Graduate age 25+: 12.0%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level: 54.4%
Native American: 72.9%
White Non-Hispanic: 25.4%

Todd County, South Dakota
Per capita income: $7,714
Median household income: $27,236
Percentage High School Graduate age 25+: 74.1%
Percentage College Graduate age 25+: 12.1%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level:40.1%
Native American: 80.7%
White Non-Hispanic: 12.7%

Sioux County, North Dakota
Per capita income: $7,731
Median household income: $29,137
Percentage High School Graduate age 25+: 78.5%
Percentage College Graduate age 25+: 11.2%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level: 37.8%
Native American: 79.4%
White Non-Hispanic: 17.3%

Corson County, South Dakota
Per capita income: $8,615
Median household income: $27,591
Percentage High School Graduate: 76.0%
Percentage College Graduate: 11.3%
Percentage of County Below Poverty Level: 34.9%
Native American: 64.9%
White Non-Hispanic: 31.0%

[Backspace]

What you just posted proves that blacks (which make up a larger percentage of the 2 states that we're talking about than the national average) account for a larger percentage of people in poverty than the percentage of the population than they make up. States like AL have higher percentages of blacks who based on your numbers have a higher tendency of being poor and they use a higher percentage of welfare benefits than any other race group per capita.

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

Those who are uneducated and ignorant are drawn to the republicans and hard right tea party. Not surprising the most wealthy, educated and prosperous areas are also the the most heavily democratic.

Are you sure this is true? I thought the reason why repubs donate more money to charities than the dems is because they are better off.

If I am wrong then that would really cast the dems in a worse light than they are already in now. What a bunch of greedy, selfish animals these people are. All that prosperity and they are less likely to share it.

thx for the info Tempest, I know I can count on you to make me see the light
signed
Boris Karloff

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by clb10

Mississippi and Alabama may have the most freedom loving, Tea-Party affiliated, free-market, Fox News watching folks in America.

Yet the two states are dirt poor when compared to blue states like Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Connecticut.

Comparison between U.S. states and countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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List of U.S. states by GDP per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do they need a dash of social progressiveness or what?

Partly due to the economic make-up of those states and most of the true conservatives and Tea Partiers are not poor regardless of what state they live in. In fact many of those states have more registered Democrats than Republicans. It is the handful of those who are tired of seeing so many live off the government that get involved in the Tea Party.

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Like the fine residents of Washington DC.

Actually 39% of the residents of Washington D.C. age 25+ have at least bachelors degree and the median household income is $58,553. Overall the area is more educated people and has higher incomes levels than other parts of the country.

Overall the poorest parts of America are counties in South Dakota where the majority of peope are Native American and White Amerifcans. Counties in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the majority of people are Hispanic and Counties in Kentucky where the majority of people are White Americans.

The over 70% of the people living below the poverty line in this country are White Americans and Hispanic Americans.

[Backspace]

Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy

Actually 39% of the residents of Washington D.C. age 25+ have at least bachelors degree and the median household income is $58,553. Overall the area is more educated people and has higher incomes levels than other parts of the country.

Overall the poorest parts of America are counties in South Dakota where the majority of peope are Native American and White Amerifcans. Counties in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the majority of people are Hispanic and Counties in Kentucky where the majority of people are White Americans.

The over 70% of the people living below the poverty line in this country are White Americans and Hispanic Americans.

And White Americans combined with Hispanic Americans represent what percentage of the US population?

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by Backspace

What you just posted proves that blacks (which make up a larger percentage of the 2 states that we're talking about than the national average) account for a larger percentage of people in poverty than the percentage of the population than they make up. States like AL have higher percentages of blacks who based on your numbers have a higher tendency of being poor and they use a higher percentage of welfare benefits than any other race group per capita.

All of which is true but none of that changes the fact that over 70% of the people living below the poverty level of either White Americans or Hispanic Americans.

Also the number of Black Amricans living below the poverty level decreased by 50% over the last 50 years and in actually the actual number of Black Americans living below the poverty level hasn't increased much while the population of Black Americans has more than doubled in the same period.

If Black Americans. left this country tomorrow en masse America would still have a significant poverty problem.