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Old 04-30-2011, 06:14 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Both of my children are teachers and many of my former colleagues are still teaching, so I am still in touch with what is going on in the public senior high schools. There may be an occasional teacher who uses his/her classroom as a bully pulpit, but they are NOT the norm.

I think you are the victim of a 'propaganda machine' of choice and your opinions are based on your intolerance of any views that oppose your own.
I think not.

If there were no teachers using the classroom as their own political/social bully pulpits, there would be no controversy.

I think you 'assume' by associating your perceptions of others.

I welcome discussion. I do not welcome indoctrination and forced tolerance of what others may consider the norm but are actually their agenda.

 
Old 04-30-2011, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I thought Beck was gone? He is like Herpes...the gift that keeps on giving.
Or that you think you've gotten rid of him, and he comes back ten times worse
 
Old 04-30-2011, 06:23 AM
 
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I think not.

If there were no teachers using the classroom as their own political/social bully pulpits, there would be no controversy.

I think you 'assume' by associating your perceptions of others.

I welcome discussion. I do not welcome indoctrination and forced tolerance of what others may consider the norm but are actually their agenda.
And I suppose you are the arbitrator of 'norm' and 'agenda'??
 
Old 04-30-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Then I wonder why my child's 5th grade math class had her watch Soros's anti-capitalist video, "The Story of Stuff" not once but twice as well as a video called, "Tapped," which told the horrors of consuming bottled water???


I guess sometimes "Math is not just Math." Its Indoctrination!
Environmental awareness is evil? WOW! I would think any educational experience is a great opportunity to have a discussion with your children. If you believe in trashing the planet, then tell your children so. I am amazed that people's primary goal in education is to produce mini-me's. I want my children to be exposed to as many differing opinions as possible, to have better opportunities than I had, to have better career opportunities than I had, to seek out their own paths, to make educated decisions for themselves about politics, and religion, and the world.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 07:06 AM
 
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So you're going to shelter your child and indoctrinate him/her based on your ridiculous beliefs? Wow, that'll set them up for success...
Damn well better than what the public schools teach. They teach how to hate your own country and how to not listen to their parents and etc. If you like that, then send your kids so they can also become ignorant of the true history of this nation.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There shouldn't be any "politics" in K-12.
Save the politics and crowd swaying til college.
Teach them how to read and write instead.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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There shouldn't be any "politics" in K-12.
Save the politics and crowd swaying til college.
Teach them how to read and write instead.
Concur. Somehow I managed to get through my years of elementary education as a child without one mention from a teacher on their personal politics.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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There shouldn't be any "politics" in K-12.
Save the politics and crowd swaying til college.
Teach them how to read and write instead.
Of course there is politics in K through 12 curriculum. History, Social Studies, Geography, English Literature are heavily political subjects. It is possible to teach these subjects in such a way that all views are presented, but to think politics will not ever be dicussed would mean the subjects cannot be properly taught. Of course proselytizing and injecting one's own views is a completely different matter, and remaining objective is key.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Of course there is politics in K through 12 curriculum. History, Social Studies, Geography, English Literature are heavily political subjects. It is possible to teach these subjects in such a way that all views are presented, but to think politics will not ever be dicussed would mean the subjects cannot be properly taught. Of course proselytizing and injecting one's own views is a completely different matter, and remaining objective is key.
I posted "politics" with quotes in them..meaning not the academic subject of politics.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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And I suppose you are the arbitrator of 'norm' and 'agenda'??
Again, assumptions.

I never said I am.

I do know however recognize what's abnormal for teaching purposes and I can recognize what an agenda is.
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