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Old 05-02-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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Yep just ask Pat Tillman!

 
Old 05-02-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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You've got a good point..........so let's say the did interrogate him. That means they are still lying as their timeline doesn't add up. It makes no sense to go in like cowboys and ransack this place and take him out. Like you said......it would be MUCH more beneficial to capture him ALIVE and use him to uncover swaths of terrorist hideouts, plans, etc. The question we have to ask is what secrets does/did OSAMA have that he would have told? Excellent point my Latin American friend. Gets you thinking for sure. The US Navy Seals and Delta are the best in the world......they could have captured Bin Laden alive if in fact he was alive. I mean they've had 10 fricking years to prepare for this day. Yet they put two bullets in his head and throw him in the ocean? Makes no sense at all!

especially in light of the fact that originally they reported that they had possession of the body, were testing for DNA, and bringing it back.

the sites are being scrubbed faster than you can find them.

nobel peace prize, bitchez!
 
Old 05-02-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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It's pretty simple actually..........

Wallstreet and high finance i.e. international banks control the Pentagon, MI6, CIA etc............these factions control the US government.......the US government for the most part is one big front. It means nothing.. It exists to keep the sheeple inline and under the thumbs of the elite bankers and financial institutions that control the money supply and debt based monetary system.

These people are very powerful and have been around long before America was even an idea. These are the same people the revolutionaires died fighting and the exact people our Constitution is supposed to protect us against. These financial, business, banking, corporate elites who don't live by the same laws and governments that you and I do have killed two presidents, committed terrorist acts on US soil and have toppled entire governments and nations i.e. Argentina, Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Russia, Iran and the laundry list goes on and on like a sordid horror novel.

But most Americans want to pretend in the fairy tale that is the American dream and American democracy when it fact those ideals our forefathers of the Constitution and 1776 fought and died for never even got off the ground. We never defeated the British. We beat back the British Army but the high financiers tightened their grip on the Republic harder than ever. We tried to beat them back again in the War of 1812 but it was a los cause. The final nail in the coffin and the complete relinquishment of power happened in 1913 when they finally brought our entire economy under their control with the creation of the Federal Reserve.

But this all stuff you read in conspiracy books.....it couldn't be true. A handful of wealthy elite controlling, manipulating, subverting, plundering and pillaging in the name of freedom and capitalism? Jesus would never let that happen! LMAO!

The American Dream............you gotta be asleep to believe in it!
I have thought this many times. A bigger picture we hear little or nothing about? It is outrageous but it does begin to explain how an entity like Goldman Sachs can be the supposed largest contributor to both Dubya and Obama with little or no regard to political party. Special Interests. Masons. Skull and Cross Bones. The Federal Reserve. Rockefellors. Rothschilds. etc etc etc
 
Old 05-02-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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Obama was happy this happened on his watch, he was sweating badly, wondering what he could do, to get his ratings up. This Bin Laden take down was in place under Bush, Obama just took over. It doesn't make him any better of a president. He still sucks.
 
Old 05-02-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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They'd vouch for anything they were ordered to vouch 4.
Of course they will be because they will all be enlisted until the day they die.
 
Old 05-02-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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Of course they will be because they will all be enlisted until the day they die.

Perks and threats work.
 
Old 05-02-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Exactly............the US military is one of the most compartmentalized organizations that has ever existed. The left hand never knows what the right hand is doing...........the average GI Joe has no clue what's going on. He's told what to think and when to think it. That's it!

Yes they are told what to think. One of the eye witnesses to TWA Flight 800 which blew up over Long Island was a recently retired Navy Captain.

Along with many others he said he saw what looked to be a fast moving missile/rocket in the sky followed by a big explosion.

He later retracted his story. Most likely his pension was threatened and he was told he didn't see what he thought he saw.
 
Old 05-02-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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I have thought this many times. A bigger picture we hear little or nothing about? It is outrageous but it does begin to explain how an entity like Goldman Sachs can be the supposed largest contributor to both Dubya and Obama with little or no regard to political party. Special Interests. Masons. Skull and Cross Bones. The Federal Reserve. Rockefellors. Rothschilds. etc etc etc

Yes and Obama is no different than any other President. He's serving his corporate and wealthy masters well. Just look into Soros' Quantum Fund. Kuhn, Loeb, and Co. was doing the same sht Goldman Sachs is doing 100 years ago. Same people different names. The US government is one big revolving door for the financial and corporate elite. Why do you think just about every political hack is a throwback to Yale, Harvard, Stanford etc....these people control, fund and otherwise control these institutions. But the middle class is just thankful enough to have these masters provide our jobs so we continue to serve them and their interests. Why do you think the government wants us to rely so much on them. Just look at the destruction of family farms. You think they want a bunch of self reliant, independent farmers providing food and sustainable agriculture for US communities? Hell no! Like Kissinger said you control a nations food supply and you control the people. Or was it the oil? Or the money? LOL.
 
Old 05-02-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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The truth is the truth. The USA coddled Bin Laden and Al Qaeda for years and continues propping up enemies to initiate wars with in the future.
That was when the Soviet Union was invading Afghanistan. Get your history right. It has nothing to do with what Bin Laden became years later.

Sometimes the U.S. has to be on the side of a someone or some country they don't agree with. For instance, the U.S. working with the Soviet Union during WWII to defeat Germany.

Again, you claiming the U.S. is a terrorist nation is an insult to every American and certainly to every American serving in the military. You are dead wrong.
 
Old 05-02-2011, 05:19 PM
 
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Again, you claiming the U.S. is a terrorist nation is an insult to every American and certainly to every American serving in the military. You are dead wrong.
Terrorists are as terrorists do.

Cheney's fingerprints are all over the anthrax letters sent to Congress and the press.

It was Cheney's deciding vote on the Patriot Act.
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