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Old 05-04-2011, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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A country as rich in natural resources as Canada shouldn't need to depend on any other
country, we are capable of being self sufficient but for our governments sell outs.
Well, we might have a bit of a challenge when it comes to tropical fruit!
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ha. If Canadian Conservatives were to run for office in the U.S., the right-wingers on this forum would be screaming, "Socialists! Communists!"

As far as I know, the Conservatives of Canada support their national health care system. Is that what you right-wingers here would want for the U.S.?
Have you looked at the platform?

Tax cuts for business and individuals, less spending, NO job-killing climate change legislation, less protectionism, more defense spending.

I'd say they fit right in.

Again..the point. The Liberal Party suffered it's worst defeat in their history...which is a good, good thing.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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While Canada's conservatives may not be as conservative as US conservatives, especially on social issues, I don't see how anyone could say, based on their platform they are more like Democrats in the US.
Canada is planning to lower their corporate tax rate to 15% next year while the US rate remains at a worldwide high of 35%. Republicans have only proposed lowering it to 25%. No Democrat in the US would ever support lowering the corporate rate to 15% so on taxes the Canadian conservatives may be a bit to the right of even the Republicans.
One smart thing they are doing is not getting rid of nationalized health care up front, but allowing more and more private health care alternatives such as contracting out CAT scans to private providers like in Saskatchewan because the government doesn't have have enough scanners to handle the load. Nationalized health will just wither on the vine or at least there will be more private alternatives.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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While Canada's conservatives may not be as conservative as US conservatives, especially on social issues, I don't see how anyone could say, based on their platform they are more like Democrats in the US.
Canada is planning to lower their corporate tax rate to 15% next year while the US rate remains at a worldwide high of 35%. Republicans have only proposed lowering it to 25%. No Democrat in the US would ever support lowering the corporate rate to 15% so on taxes the Canadian conservatives may be a bit to the right of even the Republicans.
I would say that the Canadian Conservatives are true fiscal conservatives, as opposed to the fake fiscal conservative GOP. That being said, The CP is not like Democrats or Republicans, I think they are more like moderate GOPers.
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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While Canada's conservatives may not be as conservative as US conservatives, especially on social issues, I don't see how anyone could say, based on their platform they are more like Democrats in the US.
Canada is planning to lower their corporate tax rate to 15% next year while the US rate remains at a worldwide high of 35%. Republicans have only proposed lowering it to 25%. No Democrat in the US would ever support lowering the corporate rate to 15% so on taxes the Canadian conservatives may be a bit to the right of even the Republicans.
One smart thing they are doing is not getting rid of nationalized health care up front, but allowing more and more private health care alternatives such as contracting out CAT scans to private providers like in Saskatchewan because the government doesn't have have enough scanners to handle the load. Nationalized health will just wither on the vine or at least there will be more private alternatives.
Good points, but facts seldom get in the way of denial of those who just can't handle the truth. A historic election for Canada and for Conservatives.

Private HC in Canada is booming, is it not?
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Good points, but facts seldom get in the way of denial of those who just can't handle the truth. A historic election for Canada and for Conservatives.

Private HC in Canada is booming, is it not?
Well, according to FOX it is.

Canada Sees Boom in Private Health Care Business - FoxNews.com

However, the two health care systems are so different, it's like comparing apples to cats or something.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Well, according to FOX it is.

Canada Sees Boom in Private Health Care Business - FoxNews.com

However, the two health care systems are so different, it's like comparing apples to cats or something.
How about the NYT?

As Canada's Slow-Motion Public Health System Falters, Private Medical Care Is Surging - New York Times

As Canada's Slow-Motion Public Health System Falters, Private Medical Care Is Surging

Amazing that the Left/dems want to emulate HC systems that are FAILING and IMPLODING under massive cost, long wait times, access, etc, etc.

Overhauling health-care system tops agenda at annual meeting of Canada's doctors

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"We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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How about the NYT?

As Canada's Slow-Motion Public Health System Falters, Private Medical Care Is Surging - New York Times

As Canada's Slow-Motion Public Health System Falters, Private Medical Care Is Surging

Amazing that the Left/dems want to emulate HC systems that are FAILING and IMPLODING under massive cost, long wait times, access, etc, etc.

Overhauling health-care system tops agenda at annual meeting of Canada's doctors
Apples to cats.

American Health Care Professional Tells About Canadian System | CJOnline.com

“In my opinion, based strictly on the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP), most information that Americans hear about the Canadian system are exaggerated distortions in order to support U.S. (usually right wing) political agendas in eliminating American support systems like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. . . . According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a 30 member group of the world’s industrialized nations, Canada annually pays $3895 (USD) per capita for health care, more than similar nations Australia, France, Germany, Japan, Sweden, and the U.K.

Shocking! Well, the United States (us) pays $7290 per capita, 16% GDP compared with Canada’s 10.6%. It’s not fair, but Canadians live 3.2 years longer, and have infant mortality about two-thirds ours.


New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care | Physicians for a National Health Program

In a last-ditch effort to convince Canadians that their public health care system should be privatized, Canadian Medical Association (CMA) President Robert Ouellet has promised to “pull out all the stops” during the association’s annual meeting next week. Trouble is, Ouellet’s mission to lead the change to privatization is exactly the opposite of what 86 percent of Canadians want.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Apples to cats.

New poll shows Canadians overwhelmingly support public health care | Physicians for a National Health Program

In a last-ditch effort to convince Canadians that their public health care system should be privatized, Canadian Medical Association (CMA) President Robert Ouellet has promised to “pull out all the stops” during the association’s annual meeting next week. Trouble is, Ouellet’s mission to lead the change to privatization is exactly the opposite of what 86 percent of Canadians want.
Of course they love it...it's "free". Meanwhile, if you want or NEED anything done in a reasonable amount of time, they go to the states for it....stuff like preventative MRI, Mammo, knee surgery....
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