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Old 05-03-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Reagan was a conservative. It was the Obama administration that insisted terrorists should be tried in NYC. Why the change of heart?
Oh, my bad, we must exclude "conservatives"... they are allowed to practice all that...
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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I agree torture is bad.

waterboarding is not torture.
So McCain and Powell are wrong? I think not. Stand in a running shower, put a washcloth over your face, then face the downcoming water...see how long it takes before you can't breathe and feel like you're drowning.
You just might change your mind.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Is Jello-boarding allowed?
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Neo Progs are incessantly whining about how evil water boarding is, yet they are now rejoicing that Bin Laden took two between the eyes. Help me understand the tortured logic so I don't assume hypocrisy.

Killing terrorists is good.

Waterboarding terrorists is good.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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It's not simply a matter of personal opinion. After WW2 the US tried and executed Japanese officers who waterboarded American POWs stating it was a clear example of torture which periodically resulting in prisoners dying. The US has also had subjects die while being waterboarded. It's a fact that the US defined waterboarding as torture when it happened to Americans just as it is a fact we executed Japanese officers for it saying it was a war crime.
Then why is waterboarding used on some U.S. troops for training purposes?
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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They got the info they needed that lead to finding OBL, through torture. The point is, the dems are hypocrites. They scream about Republicans using prisons and tourture to get important info out of these terrorists, but that is exactly what they did as well.
The left can no longer accuse the right of being war mongers, when Obama is doing the exact same thing that the right has done. Of course he is, he knows that it is what works.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Then why is waterboarding used on some U.S. troops for training purposes?
I think Hannity knows. He had volunteered to be waterboarded to prove the point.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Might want to look at those pesky Geneva Conventions.
You might want to read post #31.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I think Hannity knows. He had volunteered to be waterboarded to prove the point.
Is that the best you got? Weak. Very weak. It doesn't change the fact I posted.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Anyone on the left who is happy about UBL being dead needs to remember that waterboarding is the thing that got this ball rolling.

and rendition (holding people without trial in places like GITMO) was the second thing that got us to UBL.

those are two things the left seems to abhor (at least on paper)
They know it. Deep down, they know it. They won't admit or accept it though!
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