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Old 05-06-2011, 12:21 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Interesting to see that this Administration denys that water boarding led to info that helped to locate Osama. I personally do not think any information would have been given up if some form of torture was not involved.
That is such a logical answer, i doubt really seriously if there were no torture involved, that there would not be any yapping. Common sense tells you this does it not.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:30 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Not only was he just doing his job, he was protecting his political future. I'm not saying that this was Obama's motivation, but consider what would've happened to his approval ratings if he has not given the OK to take out Obama when given the opportunity and the public found this out. Yes he deserves credit, about as much as we all deserve credit for not speeding through a police-infested speed trap.
I do have male friends who think this is exactly why Obama's timing was now. They said to me look, his approval rating is in the toilet! won't repeat what else they said, lets just flush it down the drain!

I would like to hear one true version, because with the stories changing every day, i don't know which one is real, or will we ever know the true version. Panetta seems pretty straight forward to me.

I'm saying i know people who do believe he did this for his political future. They are doubting him and they both are dems, imagine that!
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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I do have male friends who think this is exactly why Obama's timing was now. They said to me look, his approval rating is in the toilet! won't repeat what else they said, lets just flush it down the drain!

I would like to hear one true version, because with the stories changing every day, i don't know which one is real, or will we ever know the true version. Panetta seems pretty straight forward to me.

I'm saying i know people who do believe he did this for his political future. They are doubting him and they both are dems, imagine that!
I would like to hear one true version.

Because, with the stories changing every day, I don't know which one is real, or will we ever know the true version.

Not unless you were there, and not unless you were/are security cleared for it, are you EVER going to have the "real" version or the "whole story".


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Old 05-06-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Just listened to Bill O'Tidely on FOX explain that there ought to be a Law that a Pres has the authority to authorize torture methods of interrogation when there are plots to kill thousands of people so that we can find out about plots to kill thousands of people??? Errr, I guess we will have to start electing Presidents that have ESP. FOX really believes their viewers are dumb, could be they are correct.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:54 AM
 
Location: South East
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]Just listened to Bill O'Tidely on FOX [/b]explain that there ought to be a Law that a Pres has the authority to authorize torture methods of interrogation when there are plots to kill thousands of people so that we can find out about plots to kill thousands of people??? Errr, I guess we will have to start electing Presidents that have ESP. FOX really believes their viewers are dumb, could be they are correct.
And as usual, you are a self proclaimed viewer with a huge Fox obsession.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:18 AM
 
Location: South Portland, Maine
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Just listened to Bill O'Tidely on FOX explain that there ought to be a Law that a Pres has the authority to authorize torture methods of interrogation when there are plots to kill thousands of people so that we can find out about plots to kill thousands of people??? Errr, I guess we will have to start electing Presidents that have ESP. FOX really believes their viewers are dumb, could be they are correct.
At the end of the day I was very comfortable with the idea that our president, our military, and our CIA ect didn't have to sanction the torture of some lunatic fanatic who meant to do us harm..

That was the job of an unsung hero who put his own career and life in jeapordy to get the job done and to protect this country..

That was the way it has worked for many years until you libs started whinning and crying about other peoples rights... Not American citizens... oh know... but known terrorists, muderers, and rapists who would just assume cut the head off your own child..

You can't air the picture of OBL becasue you might offend the muslim world!

But your all for running the photo's of some "young and dumb" service men and women who were doing nothing but Hazing some prisoners... All in an effort to tear down our military and make our country look evil..

Why would a president have to have ESP?
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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And as usual, you are a self proclaimed viewer with a huge Fox obsession.
I just wonder how many of their listeners hear entire statements. Or, do they just pick out a few phrases that suit their particular bias and not bother to try and comprehend what the talking head actually said?
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:22 AM
 
Location: South East
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I just wonder how many of their listeners hear entire statements. Or, do they just pick out a few phrases that suit their particular bias and not bother to try and comprehend what the talking head actually said?
Well, all you have to do is ask yourself. You are constantly quoting and linking and talking about Fox news.....you are obviously a viewer....you are able to answer your own question.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Well, all you have to do is ask yourself. You are constantly quoting and linking and talking about Fox news.....you are obviously a viewer....you are able to answer your own question.
I do watch FOX at times. I find it interesting in a similar way that an Ornithologist observes the social interaction of a gaggle of geese.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Funny you would create a thread named "CIA Director Says Intel from Waterboarding Led to Bin Laden Raid" and then you prove it incorrect in the OP.
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