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You were a left leaner? At the same time I was the King of England.
Because you weren't aware of what happened doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's a matter of your cognitive perception.
During those years anti-war demonstrations happened many times across the country. Maybe not in Kansas, maybe the residents of Kansas were swept up by the fear of communism. Hard to believe that Kansas has anything but hard core conservatives anyway.
The protests were not riots. They were protests against the war. Many of the demonstrators were the older generation, some because their sons were killed in the war.
The civil rights protests lead by Dr King (with the fire hoses and attacking police dogs) were on the national news.
Here's what happened to peaceful protestors. Note, the order to spray the demonstrators (including women and children) was not given by "biggoted lefties".
I was 35 during that long hot summer of 1968 and I was still one of those left leaners as I call them. However, I never managed to see many of the things that I think you say you saw or didn't see. I was sure at the time that there were always all kinds of lefty activists involved in those riots although I was never close to them. Most of my news came from local TV and regional newspapers in Kansas. There was no internet then or I would have probably changed ideological thinking sooner than I did.
You have to have a closed mind to live in Kansas, elsewise you could be kidnapped off to some kind of African marriage ceremony.
The protests were not riots. They were protests against the war. Many of the demonstrators were the older generation, some because their sons were killed in the war.
Some were not riots, many -- if not most --others, were. You can do a tap-dance worthy of Mr. Bojagles and hope to avoid it, but fact is many of these "peaceful protests" were anything but. They were a product of leftist agitators and spoiled brat kids who spit upon everything that gave them the right to do so.
But like I mentioned in an earlier post, ANYTHING those people did would be ok with those like you and the aging hippie, right? If it is bad for America, then it works for you, huh?
So, c'mon... let's not be coy about it. I am getting too old myself to have a high-tolerance for too much Marxist bullsh*t.
And you, Cheilgal? "Social justice" -- a phrase you are fond of tossing out? --is just an emotive term to justify leftist tyranny and control of other peoples lives and money. That slop deserves to be fed to the hogs; unfortunately, you feed it to impressionable young minds who don't know any better.
Well, I am going to leave y'all with this one. A quote that I wish I had written. And it seems very apropros of the topic at hand and the Vietnam war and the protests and all.
It comes from Pat Conroy. Some might recognize the name as being that of a best-selling author. Among his many works was "The Great Santini", "The Lords of Dicipline", and "Beach Music." (just to name several).
His father was a decorated Marine Corps fighter pilot, but he (Pat Conroy) took a different path. He was a child of the 60's who resisted everything his own dad had stood for. He, by his own admission, sorta flipped the bird at America when it came to serving his country and, instead, joined the people he thought at the time were all for "social justice" and "peace".
Well, maybe they were and probably many were so idealistic, but as Conroy put it in his book "My Losing Season" (very abbreviated/paraphrased):
"Do I not see America's flaws? Of course I do. But I can now honor her basic, incorruptible virtues. The ones that let me walk the streets screaming my ass off that my country had no business in Vietnam.
Now, I wish that I had entered the Marine Corps as a young man when Vietnam was a dirty word to me. I wish I had lead a platoon of Marines who the Vietcong would have had their hands full if they had entered a fire-fight with us.
Instead my own eyes locked onto the sixties. Now I understand I should have protested the war after I returned from Vietnam. After I had done my duty. I have come to a conclusion that I knew in my bones, but lacked the courage to act on":
America is a good enough country to die for even when she is wrong.
Yes, it is an event worth remembering. Four were killed and nine wounded, one paralyzed by a bullet in the vertebrae.
This is not how a democracy functions.
The Indian [was thought] as less than human and worthy only of extermination. We did shoot down defenseless men, and women and children at places like Camp Grant, Sand Creek, and Wounded Knee. We did feed strychnine to red warriors. We did set whole villages of people out naked to freeze in the iron cold of Montana winters. And we did confine thousands in what amounted to concentration camps.â€[RIGHT]—The Indian Wars of the West, 1934[/RIGHT]
[quote=Evenstar51;19058289]I think "bigoted lefties" is an oxymoron. It shows how logic and reality utterly escape these people.[/quo
Ah yes because lefties believe in equal rights for all......as long as it goes along with what they believe. If not it'll be legislated out of existence.
About Kent State...were they given an order or not?
I lived in Chicago in 1968. There were demonstrations by thousands to get a candidate who would end the war. It wasn't a riot.
What's with the 'left leaning activists'? The thousands demonstrating were not on hand to convert America to communism.
Chicago Police became violent and beat on the press, especially the TV camera crews.
During a press conference to address the issue of police beatings, Mayor Daley made one of his bizarre statements: "The policeman is not there to create disorder, the policeman is there to preserve disorder."
Where did you learn your history, from Glenn Beck?
I fear that my knowledge about how crowds of people came from reading books when I was a left leaning Democrat, which I was at the time of the Kent State riots. I have read too many places that small groups of activists can cause more serious demonstrations that end up in riots and that certainly happened at Kent State.
Yep, I may have read too much anti-Communist literature in college also since those were the early days of the Cold War. I guess I wasn't really a good left leaning Democrat back then since I read so much of that kind of stuff and refused to believe any of the early 70s left leaning crap. Have you ever read any of the information about early 70s demonstrations, always at colleges, that were planned and begun by Communist cruds on those campuses? What I read came from the FBI files and proved a lot to me about the Communist led demonstrations in colleges, especially in Texas and North Carolina at that time.
You were a left leaner? At the same time I was the King of England.
Because you weren't aware of what happened doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's a matter of your cognitive perception.
During those years anti-war demonstrations happened many times across the country. Maybe not in Kansas, maybe the residents of Kansas were swept up by the fear of communism. Hard to believe that Kansas has anything but hard core conservatives anyway.
The protests were not riots. They were protests against the war. Many of the demonstrators were the older generation, some because their sons were killed in the war.
The civil rights protests lead by Dr King (with the fire hoses and attacking police dogs) were on the national news.
Here's what happened to peaceful protestors. Note, the order to spray the demonstrators (including women and children) was not given by "biggoted lefties".
Well I never voted for a Republican for any office because of the R after his name back then. Yes I believed in anything left that wasn't as far left as communism/socialism but that was because I knew what the far left crap would bring to us.
As for Kansas and the "peace" demonstrations I never took part in anything like that. An example of me and lefties of your kind would be the lefty who tried to pick a fight with me on the Kansas University campus one day. This "hippy" type as I would have called him from his clothing and hair tried to get me and some other school administrators to read his "tract" that called for the student government to be taken over by his kind. He said, I imagine because of our clothes (suits and ties) that if we couldn't understand the tract he could explain it. He was sure that we weren't highly educated enough to understand his words. My reply to him was that if he wrote it I was sure I could understand it but why waste time when agreement would be impossible.
Yep, we hillbillies sure don't hold much with things like rioting as a form of protest so the riots of the 60s that became riots after the leftist trained people got to the "demonstrations" and started their work.
You have to have a closed mind to live in Kansas, elsewise you could be kidnapped off to some kind of African marriage ceremony.
And why would any Africans want me to attend one of their marriage ceremonies? Is it because they are so closed minded?
I really wonder what you would see in the few Demoncrats that live in Kansas and the closed mindedness of them.
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