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Old 05-06-2011, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Now is the time to quit blaming rape victims, and start placing blame squarely where it lies, on the rapist.

Cop's rape comment sparks wave of 'SlutWalks' - US news - Life - msnbc.com

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An international series of protests known as SlutWalks, sparked by a Toronto police officer's flippant comment that women should avoid dressing like "sluts" to avoid being raped or victimized, is taking root in the United States.

"It was taking the blame off the rapist and on the victim," said Nicole Sullivan, 21, a student at the University of Massachusetts-Boston and an organizer of the SlutWalk planned Saturday in that city.
SlutWalking gets rolling after cop's loose talk about provocative clothing | World news | The Guardian
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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Rape and going after children are horrible. Both often get killed in jail.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:57 PM
 
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A better course of action would be to take firearms safety and training and get a CCW. Women need to take measures for their own personal safety. It is highly unlikely a cop is going to be around when a rapist attacks.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:00 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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A better course of action would be to take firearms safety and training and get a CCW. Women need to take measures for their own personal safety. It is highly unlikely a cop is going to be around when a rapist attacks.

My wife carries a gun cuz a cop's too heavy.

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Old 05-06-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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A better course of action would be to take firearms safety and training and get a CCW. Women need to take measures for their own personal safety. It is highly unlikely a cop is going to be around when a rapist attacks.
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My wife carries a gun cuz a cop's too heavy.

Yes, learn self-defence, and all those good things. Arms.......well sadly many attacks occur on women who are armed, just ask female police officers, prison employees, service personnel, etc, let alone civilians. Since most rapes are aquaintance rapes that occur when a target's guard is down, this situation is not exactly black and white. I have always found it insulting to say well if a woman had just done x, y, or z, she wouldn't have been raped. That's no different to blaming the victim in my opinion.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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A better course of action would be to take firearms safety and training and get a CCW. Women need to take measures for their own personal safety. It is highly unlikely a cop is going to be around when a rapist attacks.
It's better for a woman to take a Tae Kwan Doe, or some kind of physical self-defense, class so that she doesn't end up going to jail for murder.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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A better course of action would be to take firearms safety and training and get a CCW. Women need to take measures for their own personal safety. It is highly unlikely a cop is going to be around when a rapist attacks.


Sounds like the right plan.

I never heard of an armed woman being raped.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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It's better for a woman to take a Tae Kwan Doe, or some kind of physical self-defense, class so that she doesn't end up going to jail for murder.
Obviously you do not understand the definition of murder. Or, perhaps you live in California where they don't allow women the basic human right of self-defense?

Self-defense, and the use of lethal force in defense of self in the face of imminent lethal force or severe bodily harm, is not murder.

http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/...ayes-SDLaw.pdf
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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It's better for a woman to take a Tae Kwan Doe, or some kind of physical self-defense, class so that she doesn't end up going to jail for murder.
People don't go to jail for killing someone in self defense, they certainly don't get charged with murder, at least not in the sane parts of the US. I doubt even in wildly anti gun DC would send a woman to jail for murder for shooting a rapist.

Tae Kwon Do is a nice sport, pretty terrible for self defense, there are far better programs and styles for self defense.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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Yes, learn self-defence, and all those good things. Arms.......well sadly many attacks occur on women who are armed, just ask female police officers, prison employees, service personnel, etc, let alone civilians. Since most rapes are aquaintance rapes that occur when a target's guard is down, this situation is not exactly black and white. I have always found it insulting to say well if a woman had just done x, y, or z, she wouldn't have been raped. That's no different to blaming the victim in my opinion.
Any woman who clings to the victim mentality enables herself to quickly become one. There are many personal tools for self-defense including improvised. To be prepared and able to defend oneself prior to being attacked is not "blaming the victim"; rather, it is taking pro-active measures to keep from becoming a victim.

Women need to learn not to allow their guard to be down around. They should always be situationally aware. FYI, prison employees and service personnel are rarely allowed to be armed on prison property or on base, respectively.

So, I guess if you are of the victim mindset, be insulted. Others may wish to adopt a more proactive approach to protecting themselves than a "feel-good" march.
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