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Old 05-09-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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It doesn't matter. Based on the same reasoning you provide, I see not Muslims but those who use Islam to propagate their cause to instill violence to gain political and economic grounds.

If you blame Islam for violence because the violent scream their lungs out with religiosity, blame Christianity for the violence from those who screamed their lungs out with that religiosity. The moment you claim one side as being innocent, and the other side vilified, the bias shows.
Islam is fighting for what the other people have. What was it that MLK use to say, 'we will love you no matter what you do to us'. And his counter part Malcome X, said, something to the effect, 'it is ours and we will take it by force if we have to'. (not exact quote, but give me a minute if you need it, let me know, I can find it)
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:54 PM
 
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And that is the example of what happens when it is in the wrong hands.
Well said! It would be wrong to conclude that Christianity taught the things Hitler did just because Hitler considered himself a Christian.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:55 PM
 
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But why burn churches and kill people ? Take it to the voting booth.
Nigeria did this in retaliation to their election outcome. They want Muslim rule but didn't get it so they riot instead ?

And the moderates don't say a word ? No outrage at death and destruction in the name of their religion ?

Come on..this is not the era of the Crusades. I would have thought even third world nations have grown beyond that tribal, war mentality. All or nothing..give us what we want or you die.
So, is this an example of a lawless land?
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So, is this an example of a lawless land?
Well there's not much coverage on follow up.
I do follow foreign news sites.

It seems most just don't do enough follow up to see if justice really was served.
Almost like "drive by reporting" and always on to the next "hot issue".
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Well there's not much coverage on follow up.
I do follow foreign news sites.

It seems most just don't do enough follow up to see if justice really was served.
Almost like "drive by reporting" and always on to the next "hot issue".
Well. This is still the era of the Crusades IMO. When discussing conflicts worldwide, there is a lot of Muslim / Christian conflict. Perhaps not on as grand a scale in any one given area, but still Muslim / Christian. Maybe it is completely one-sided and maybe it started with the Muslims drawing first blood around AD 300...and centuries later, Christians are still in the self defense mode. This is possible.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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So, is this an example of a lawless land?
It not exactly lawless. At least one side is trying to enforce / impose its religious laws / beliefs on another. Historically speaking, this rarely goes well.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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Well there's not much coverage on follow up.
I do follow foreign news sites.

It seems most just don't do enough follow up to see if justice really was served.
Almost like "drive by reporting" and always on to the next "hot issue".
I too have come across coverage from foreign news sites. I have found that they have some really sharp journalists and talk show hosts. I'd share here but it would be OT to do so., however, given to the topic, there are many middle easterners that have American views, whether they know this or not, I don't know. And visa versa... It is like I always suspected, we all bleed red. Imagine that.

PS: Many would like to establish that law, (imho) so as to know beyond doubt what the rules are.

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Old 05-09-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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It not exactly lawless. At least one side is trying to enforce / impose its religious laws / beliefs on another. Historically speaking, this rarely goes well.
That is only its presentation, religion. I'm not so sure that is the end game.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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Well said! It would be wrong to conclude that Christianity taught the things Hitler did just because Hitler considered himself a Christian.
I consider myself Presidential, well, because I am. You believe me don't you?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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I consider myself Presidential, well, because I am. You believe me don't you?
What reason do I have not to? Well truth be told, I am not exactly sure of your meaning...
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