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No dear, just because women don't accept anything a male says as the truth doesn't mean they loathe or hate or are bi!ches as you have been taught.
I've read most of the 32 pages and found many well written, intelligent rejoinders to the misogynists who think women are lesser/evil/the cause of all the world's problems which DOES look like loathing.
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Originally Posted by ringwise
Anyone that doesn't accept ANYTHING a certain gender says as the truth is narrow minded. And isn't that what feminists hate about men? That they never accepted anything women said as the truth?
It has a lot less to do with being taught, and more do do with what is seen and heard.
I have no idea what your post has to do with the one of mine above that you quoted...???? Maybe the word "anything" mislead you from the point??? If I put in the word "everything" would that lead you back to the POINT ? Otherwise it looks like you're deliberately missing the point.
Your:"And isn't that what feminists hate about men? ""...again refers to a "hate" that hasn't been shown here. Sure, SOME feminists may hate men, AND some non-feminist women may ALSO hate men.
Your "It has a lot less to do with being taught, and more do do with what is seen and heard"
is wrong.....some men ARE taught by society, by their father's, friends, co-workers and even their mothers that any woman who DARES to disagree with a Male is a bi!ch......that doesn't mean they are. Calling them that is just another way to subjugate them, make them feel inferior....works with some women, NOT all women....
I have no idea what your post has to do with the one of mine above that you quoted...???? Maybe the word "anything" mislead you from the point??? If I put in the word "everything" would that lead you back to the POINT ? Otherwise it looks like you're deliberately missing the point.
Your:"And isn't that what feminists hate about men? ""...again refers to a "hate" that hasn't been shown here. Sure, SOME feminists may hate men, AND some non-feminist women may ALSO hate men.
Your "It has a lot less to do with being taught, and more do do with what is seen and heard"
is wrong.....some men ARE taught by society, by their father's, friends, co-workers and even their mothers that any woman who DARES to disagree with a Male is a bi!ch......that doesn't mean they are. Calling them that is just another way to subjugate them, make them feel inferior....works with some women, NOT all women....
I don't like children, I have no desire to get married and I definitely don't think my femininity is tied directly to being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
Some women want to be a housewife and I think that's great... my own Mother was a fantastic SAHM and I'm glad she took that path, but it's simply not for me and I'm glad that I'm not relegated to it due to my 'plumbing'.
I would be ecstatic if we could retire the phrase "barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" for eternity.
It's invoked to create a negative image of homemaking and raising children, and it serves no one in a thoughtful discussion.
That you used it kind of belies that you are "glad" your own mother was a SAHM. It also feels insulting to homemakers who might be reading this.
Well, when the wimmin folk defend their opinions it's seen as a negative, as being bitchy and 'uppity' if you will. It's funny how the feminists points are being proven without even trying
I'm pretty happy regarding the way feminism panned out, otherwise I'd be a stewardess instead of a pilot
Yeah, and all of the little girls of the future can follow in your footsteps ... .... errr ... I mean ... all of the little girls that would have hypothetically been born could have hypothetically followed in your footsteps.
There is a silver lining to this cloud .... in 30 or so years, the skies will be safe again.
I would be ecstatic if we could retire the phrase "barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" for eternity.
It's invoked to create a negative image of homemaking and raising children, and it serves no one in a thoughtful discussion.
That you used it kind of belies that you are "glad" your own mother was a SAHM. It also feels insulting to homemakers who might be reading this.
I didn't get any negativity from that post at all, merely that is not a path that particualr poster would choose.
I'm a SAHM, and I'm not offended. By the way I am barefoot in the kitchen as we speak (but I'd better not be pregnant, or else someone will be in trouble!).
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Just kidding, you set yourself up for that one! 
