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Old 05-09-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — For the second time in five months, the Pakistani authorities have embarrassed the Central Intelligence Agency by leaking the name of the C.I.A. station chief in Islamabad to Pakistani news media, a deliberate effort to complicate the work of the American spy agency in the aftermath of the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden, American officials said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/wo...0pakistan.html

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Old 05-09-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No wonder they didn't tell them about the bin Laden raid.
Those guys can't keep a secret.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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They're just ticked off they couldn't warn him. Why else was he in there unarmed and w/o bodyguards. Very, very comfy.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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I say we let the Indians get better acquainted with them.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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Being not an American, I guess I can afford to look at it from a neutral perspective. The whole war on terrorism has been a US-American problem, not Pakistan's. They agreed to kind of help America, but they didn't have to.
Now, if the US behaves in Pakistan as if it were their land instead of behaving like a guest, they need not be surprised if the hosts cease to be so forthcoming.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Being not an American, I guess I can afford to look at it from a neutral perspective. The whole war on terrorism has been a US-American problem, not Pakistan's. They agreed to kind of help America, but they didn't have to.
Now, if the US behaves in Pakistan as if it were their land instead of behaving like a guest, they need not be surprised if the hosts cease to be so forthcoming.
Harboring Bin Laden goes a little beyond not helping. More like aiding and abetting the perpetrator of 9/11 and many other acts of terror. Giving sanctuary to and harboring an international criminal is not neutral or innocuous behavior. It is the act of a double agent.

Or, do you think it was OK that Bin Laden was living in Pakistan for close to eight years?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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Being not an American, I guess I can afford to look at it from a neutral perspective. The whole war on terrorism has been a US-American problem, not Pakistan's. They agreed to kind of help America, but they didn't have to.
Now, if the US behaves in Pakistan as if it were their land instead of behaving like a guest, they need not be surprised if the hosts cease to be so forthcoming.
They agreed to help because they had/have an Al Queda problem too (and they wanted the money) and they wanted the U.S. to stand between them and India. Also, if they didn't help, they could look to Afghanistan as to what would happen to them for harboring Al Queda. They just got caught in their duplicity.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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Being not an American, I guess I can afford to look at it from a neutral perspective. The whole war on terrorism has been a US-American problem, not Pakistan's. They agreed to kind of help America, but they didn't have to.
Now, if the US behaves in Pakistan as if it were their land instead of behaving like a guest, they need not be surprised if the hosts cease to be so forthcoming.
Well of course. Pakistan is a breeding ground for terrorists and they have been funding terror programs for decades.

No doubt Pakistan would love to be rid of anyone who might look over their shoulder or witness things they prefer no one see. No doubt Pakistan would like to return to it's usual practice of sending terrorists into India and trying to invade it; just as Islam has always done and continues to do.

America's 'War On Terror" was a flawed and ill-advised declaration and concept.

We should have focused on the weasels who fund and support these Islamic terrorists and went quietly about our business of eliminating them, one by one. No fanfare, no big declaration, no hoopla. Just take 'em out quietly and be on our way.

Time to cut our loses with Pakistan. Extract all of our people from there and immediately cease all payments of monetary/financial support to Pakistan and all other Islamic nations. As well as cease any delivery of food and supplies (if any apply).
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Harboring Bin Laden goes a little beyond not helping. More like aiding and abetting the perpetrator of 9/11 and many other acts of terror. Giving sanctuary to and harboring an international criminal is not neutral or innocuous behavior. It is the act of a double agent.

Or, do you think it was OK that Bin Laden was living in Pakistan for close to eight years?
Who says the Pakistani government allowed him to live there? Look how many illegals from Mexico there are in your own country. And border control in Pakistan is not even as good as yours with Mexico.
Also, there are other countries that are hardly any better, places like Somalia or Sudan where there are also camps and stuff.
If the Pakistani people had their way, they would kick the US out tomorrow. No one there is naive enough to think the US would really do anything against India. If anything, the US is on India's side, and I think that is no secret.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Well of course. Pakistan is a breeding ground for terrorists and they have been funding terror programs for decades.

No doubt Pakistan would love to be rid of anyone who might look over their shoulder or witness things they prefer no one see. No doubt Pakistan would like to return to it's usual practice of sending terrorists into India and trying to invade it; just as Islam has always done and continues to do.

America's 'War On Terror" was a flawed and ill-advised declaration and concept.

We should have focused on the weasels who fund and support these Islamic terrorists and went quietly about our business of eliminating them, one by one. No fanfare, no big declaration, no hoopla. Just take 'em out quietly and be on our way.

Time to cut our loses with Pakistan. Extract all of our people from there and immediately cease all payments of monetary/financial support to Pakistan and all other Islamic nations. As well as cease any delivery of food and supplies (if any apply).
You can only do so in chaotic, semi-anarchist countries like Pakistan. But don't forget that there are such people in Europe, too. The US would be in serious trouble if they tried any assassination in Europe without authorization, (which they wouldn't get).
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