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Liberals are always talking about the value of a college education, when they fail to realize that for many majors, (generally the majors most leftists major in like art, philosophy, gender studies, basket weaving, protesting), there is absolutely no value.
Want to be an electrician? Go right ahead, but first, you better get a 4-year degree or else you're a loser. Just major in history....or er um something, by the way, here's 23,000 of debt.
If everyone get's a bachelor's degree, then they aren't really unique anymore are they?
I have no issue with encouraging some form of post-secondary education, but is a 4-year university the only type that's worthwhile?
Where are you getting your information.
I don't care what anyone does for their education, and I'm as liberal as the day is long.
Talk about trolling and using a broad brush.
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Its a scam , like global warming.
If your going to be a doctor or nurse good , go . Lawyer , sure .
We had better art before we gave degrees in art ,no ?
Do you notice the "grads" didn't read the small print on their mortgage and lost the house?
One of my degrees is liberal arts & education.
Not only do I own two houses outright, I'm looking at a third.
Liberals are always talking about the value of a college education, when they fail to realize that for many majors, (generally the majors most leftists major in like art, philosophy, gender studies, basket weaving, protesting), there is absolutely no value.
Want to be an electrician? Go right ahead, but first, you better get a 4-year degree or else you're a loser. Just major in history....or er um something, by the way, here's 23,000 of debt.
If everyone get's a bachelor's degree, then they aren't really unique anymore are they?
I have no issue with encouraging some form of post-secondary education, but is a 4-year university the only type that's worthwhile?
This is what's called a straw man argument, you make up stuff that you attribute to the other side and then argue against that made-up argument.
Liberals are always talking about the value of a college education, when they fail to realize that for many majors, (generally the majors most leftists major in like art, philosophy, gender studies, basket weaving, protesting), there is absolutely no value.
Want to be an electrician? Go right ahead, but first, you better get a 4-year degree or else you're a loser. Just major in history....or er um something, by the way, here's 23,000 of debt.
If everyone get's a bachelor's degree, then they aren't really unique anymore are they?
I have no issue with encouraging some form of post-secondary education, but is a 4-year university the only type that's worthwhile?
I actually agree with you that not everyone needs to go to college. I have friends who went to college for 4 years, managed to get a communications or psychology degree while spending most of their time partying and then ended up just working as a landscape contractor or working at a manager at the family business. Which didn't require a bachelor degree or the associated student loan debts.
Although from my experience it's more of a class thing than a liberal vs. conservative thing. College educated parents from middle class or upper middle class parents expect their kids to go to college for the most part. There's a staus thing in going to college. It's also because in some ways a bachelor degree has been required for a lot of entry level positions. Also that a lot of the high school education in this country is so poor, that a lot of state colleges end up teaching math, english, and history classes that should have been learnt before college.
But I work with some highly skilled programmers, some of which don't actually have a 4-year degree or just have a few technical certifications.
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Liberals are always talking about the value of a college education, when they fail to realize that for many majors, (generally the majors most leftists major in like art, philosophy, gender studies, basket weaving, protesting), there is absolutely no value.
Oh man, basket weaving as a major--hilarious... I think that joke was still funny the first time I saw it in a dog-eared Mad Magazine from 1972 making fun of hippies. Actually art as a major can be useful, as in that I've worked with succesful art majors who work in marketing or as art directors. Although on the other hand you could say religious studies could be considered of absolutely no use as well.
Liberals are always talking about the value of a college education, when they fail to realize that for many majors, (generally the majors most leftists major in like art, philosophy, gender studies, basket weaving, protesting), there is absolutely no value.
Want to be an electrician? Go right ahead, but first, you better get a 4-year degree or else you're a loser. Just major in history....or er um something, by the way, here's 23,000 of debt.
If everyone get's a bachelor's degree, then they aren't really unique anymore are they?
I have no issue with encouraging some form of post-secondary education, but is a 4-year university the only type that's worthwhile?
Because it is so much easier to get things done in society if we don't have to waste time and money placating ignorant trogs.
"Why do liberals want everyone to go to college?"
Who said that they do?
This is what's called a straw man argument, you make up stuff that you attribute to the other side and then argue against that made-up argument.
I'll go on a cross country road trip and poll all 308 million Americans to see if they're liberal and if they want everyone to go to college then. Point being liberals generally want free health care, free college education, free housing for those who cannot afford it, etc. it's not called a straw man argument, it's called a generalization.
I'm fairly liberal and I don't think that way at all. In fact, I think for many high school grads it's a waste. But what else are they supposed to do? That's the problem.
And one must wonder, what is so much more appealing for a business to establish a presence in countries like China and India, as opposed to Ethiopia and Somalia where labor has to be a lot cheaper?
In the IT field, degrees mean nothing. Certifications are everything.
Only if you want to stay mid-level or lower. To really move up you need Certifications, and a degree. I have seen too many people hit glass ceilings in IT because of there lack of a degree and nothing to do with their skills.
Do you have any evidence that "liberals want everyone to go to college" or is this just you gut feeling?
Yeah, how is this a "liberals" issue? It seems that there are a lot of conservatives who extol the virtues of a college education as well, especially if they are college educated themselves.
If your point is generally that a blue collar job is just as good as a white collar job, I agree with you. The problem is, there aren't as many good paying blue collar jobs as there used to be.
College isn't -- and shouldn't be -- for everyone. Technical colleges should be held in just as high of regard as 4 year universities.
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Why do liberals want everyone to go to college?
. Point being liberals generally want free health care, free college education, free housing for those who cannot afford it, etc. it's not called a straw man argument, it's called a generalization.
