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Old 08-22-2011, 12:12 AM
 
Location: The 719
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We don't seem to hear much about Obama's war in Libya, why is that? Anyone have any updates on how things are doing there? Everything wrapped up? We done yet?
Yeah, I think last I heard... it might be going swimmingly.

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I haven't seem so much sorrow amongst right wingers since the assassination of Osama Bin Laden.
I don't know that I'm a right-winger, but I am what you might call a Republican... but I've been enjoying this Obama stuff. I don't know what's going on. He keeps acting like a Republican or something... or, maybe he just keeps doing what a Republican president wished he could do.

Kill Osama, check.
Bring down Gadhafi, check.

Dude ought to extend his vacation a bit and take a break.

I better shut up before I further infuriate my fellow right-wingers.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:13 AM
 
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LOL
I love how this is about American domestic politics, and not the plight of the Libyan people.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:32 AM
 
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LOL
I love how this is about American domestic politics, and not the plight of the Libyan people.
Most folks will read the title of this thread and never get past the "Obama".

My opinion:

1. I'm happy that the Libyan revolution was successful. I don't know how rebellion would have gone without NATO and US support but...

2. The United States needs to stop being the world police. Just because most folks will be happy to see Muammar gone doesn't mean that we should continue waging wars.

3. This is one of those events that should leave any thinking person torn. A popular revolution was successful due to the intervention of imperialist, exploitative allies. Tough pill to swallow.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:43 AM
 
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I suppose if the success or failure of the Libyan situation is to be attributed to Obama () then i guess he's doing very well as kadaffy is about done.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:03 AM
 
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the problem with getting involved with these stupid wars is that nobody thinks past the "winning" :

These developments have prompted heads to turn to the Western powers that facilitated this war for what to do about a post-Gadhafi Libya. Having hitched the NATO wagon to a rather unimpressive star, concerns are rising that a rebel-controlled country is unworkable and undesirable.

The rebel group is not a cohesive assemblage, but made of disparate factions. The main rebel group, based in Benghazi in the country’s east, consists of former government ministers who have defected, and longstanding opposition figures, representing a range of political views including Arab nationalists, Islamists, secularists, socialists and businessmen. Their military forces are a hodge-podge of armed groups, former soldiers and freelance militias, including amateur neighborhood gangs and former members of an Islamist guerrilla group crushed by Gaddafi in the 1990s.

An example of their divisions made headlines at the end of July, when rebel military commander Abdel Fattah Younis was assassinated by his fellow comrades on suspicion of being disloyal and having perhaps been responsible for an inadequate rebel performance in the east. More than division, the rebels have accumulated a record of extrajudicial executions, suppression of free speech, beatings, and thievery, which have their Western enablers worried about their ability to run a just and humane country.

And such a task will be monumental. The economy is ruined, infrastructure has been bombed and destroyed, communications are disrupted, public services are damaged and heavily armed gangs loyal only to themselves are likely to remain at large. Political tasks, like a significant refugee problem and a looming division of the country between eastern and western tribes, are also complicated undertakings, to say the least.


of course, there is the cost of "rebuilding" all of that war damaged/destroyed infrastructure, and "maintaining order".

i am sure it is all good.

only 4 more wars with 4 more unpredictable outcomes to go!~
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:26 AM
 
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You sure you want to claim that?

This has been the deadliest month since the wars started.
No, it hasn't.

In Afghanistan, 59 U.S. troops have died this month, fewer than in either June (60) or July (65) of last year.
iCasualties | OEF | Afghanistan | Fatalities By Month

And I notice you said "wars", plural -- in other words, including Iraq. Well, so far this month there have been 0 U.S. troops dying in Iraq. So far, it is the first such month since the war began eight and a half years ago. And in Iraq the number of monthly fatalities has exceeded 59 -- the total we're at in Afghanistan this month -- in 33 different months.
iCasualties | OIF | Iraq | Fatalities By Month

The total combined deaths to U.S. troops this month come nowhere close to even the top 25 worst months of the war.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:28 AM
 
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We don't seem to hear much about Obama's war in Libya, why is that? Anyone have any updates on how things are doing there? Everything wrapped up? We done yet?
You must be very depressed today.

All of your silent cheering for the NATO mission in Libya to fail spectacularly has gone for naught...
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Old 08-22-2011, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You must be very depressed today.

All of your silent cheering for the NATO mission in Libya to fail spectacularly has gone for naught...
They don't don't know what they think about it yet, the FOX talking heads haven't let them know. Too early.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:00 AM
 
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They don't don't know what they think about it yet, the FOX talking heads haven't let them know. Too early.
Rush Limbaugh is on at noon everyday, they'll get their verbal marching orders by 2pm,watch the opinions start flowing by 3
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:04 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Another victory for Obama

The news out of Libya is yet another victory for this great President Obama.

Pubs, you continue to FAIL and your negative narrative is not working.
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