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Old 05-12-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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In all honesty, this whole "oil companies are evil" thing is really hilarious. Yeah, all those oil company workers with families of 4, 5, 6 children at home are reeeaaal evil. Making all that money so they can put their kids through college-- how dare they!
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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LOL, not complaining, life's been good to us. just being honest that she really didn't deserve how much they gave her. The retirement match, the health care benefits, the time off, the bonuses nothing like any place I ever worked. Her "buyout" when she left BP was one and half years of pay and a lifetime retiree health care policy that her co-pay was less than $100 a month until recently. Tell me another private sector employer that was handing out 18 month buyouts. When she moved to the job she retired from, at a hospital, she took a 45% pay cut doing the exact same work.


Fact is, BP and many of the big oil companies are flush with cash and are burning through it like drunken sailors. FYI, you do understand that that is our MONEY, the money we pay them every week at the pump.
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Oh so your beef is that oil companies pay their employees well? Oh heaven help that an oil company will pay their employees a good wage. You would rather live in a communist country where the government dictates what people are paid? Move to Venezuela.

I can't believe your wife made 100K and you are complaining about it, you should be writing the oil companies thank you notes every day.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Oh so your beef is that oil companies pay their employees well? Oh heaven help that an oil company will pay their employees a good wage. You would rather live in a communist country where the government dictates what people are paid? Move to Venezuela.

I can't believe your wife made 100K and you are complaining about it, you should be writing the oil companies thank you notes every day.
I find it interesting that the same people who complain about public sector wages and benefits have no complaints about oil companies, who are taking tax-payer money, when they pay high wages and benefits. Not that this is hypocrisy or anything. Just saying.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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LOL, not complaining, life's been good to us. just being honest that she really didn't deserve how much they gave her. The retirement match, the health care benefits, the time off, the bonuses nothing like any place I ever worked. Her "buyout" when she left BP was one and half years of pay and a lifetime retiree health care policy that her co-pay was less than $100 a month until recently. Tell me another private sector employer that was handing out 18 month buyouts. When she moved to the job she retired from, at a hospital, she took a 45% pay cut doing the exact same work.


Fact is, BP and many of the big oil companies are flush with cash and are burning through it like drunken sailors. FYI, you do understand that that is our MONEY, the money we pay them every week at the pump.
Well then she probably should have been paid less and was overlooked. This type of thing can happen in a large company. It is the same with Walmart, Apple, GE...etc.

Lets not generalize and assume that all 10,000 oil companies in America act that way. And people please realize-- there are other oil companies besides BP, Exxon, Shell, Conoco, and Chevron!
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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Also, I don't see a problem with a company paying their employees well (when they are successful).

The alternative is for the CEO to keep all the money-- would you rather that happen?
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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i am not singling her out, saying she was the only one being overpaid, almost everyone working at Sohio was WAY overpaid. she didn't fall through the cracks for 30 some years.... That was one of the things that lead to BP taking them over. Turned out BP was just as bad.
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Well then she probably should have been paid less and was overlooked. This type of thing can happen in a large company. It is the same with Walmart, Apple, GE...etc.

Lets not generalize and assume that all 10,000 oil companies in America act that way. And people please realize-- there are other oil companies besides BP, Exxon, Shell, Conoco, and Chevron!
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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no, I'd rather they keep costs down and sell their products for less.
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Also, I don't see a problem with a company paying their employees well (when they are successful).

The alternative is for the CEO to keep all the money-- would you rather that happen?
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Now that Obamacare has passed into law, Oil is the next sector of business that the Obama admin wants to trout out to publicly crap on. Remember those evil health insurance companies that were raping the public by earning an even more evil 3-4% profit? OH, the horrors!
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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In all honesty, this whole "oil companies are evil" thing is really hilarious. Yeah, all those oil company workers with families of 4, 5, 6 children at home are reeeaaal evil. Making all that money so they can put their kids through college-- how dare they!
I woulod bet his wife is like all thsoe auto workers who for years that said the same of the auto inductry. Disgruntled workers ;pure and simple. I bet every wroker except his wife is lazy in her opinion.Maybe she needs to go work on a offshore oil rig or in a filed on a drillig platform to see just how lazy.
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I'll take those bets tex, because you haven't got a clue. My wife is an extremely hardworking person. That is one of the reasons she was one of the last regular employee to go in Cleveland. After that they asked her to contract for them in Houston. If she wanted to move there she could have kept her job.
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I woulod bet his wife is like all thsoe auto workers who for years that said the same of the auto inductry. Disgruntled workers ;pure and simple. I bet every wroker except his wife is lazy in her opinion.Maybe she needs to go work on a offshore oil rig or in a filed on a drillig platform to see just how lazy.
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