The success of communism on display

[wrench409]

Originally Posted by SourD

The American Indians were committing genocide on each other as well. They aren't as innoncent as people try to make them out.

Don't forget cannibalism.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by summers73

Not only that, but the Soviets killed people outside their borders too. They murdered Germans by the score, even innocent civilians as they passed through Berlin. It didn't matter if you were a SS officer (a true believer in the Reich) or a conscripted peon who faced orders at the barrel of a gun. You were as good as dead to them. They installed puppet government in E. Germany, Hungary, Poland, etc that murdered and tortured people by the tens of thousands.

It's a non sequitur and I would hope the poster knew that.

Katyn Massacre, 22,000 unarmed Polish Officers executed and dumped in mass graves by the Soviets (our allies at the time).

[PGKangrui]

Read Nothing to Envy to learn more about the situation in North Korea. It also explains how capitalism was improving the situation until Kim Jong-Il shut the markets down. Communism is absolutely horrible.

[godofthunder9010]

Originally Posted by liebknecht

fair enough but let's not forget the impressive genocide of the American Indians, the greatest genocide in human recorded history, committed by...oh well, the US.

EXTREMELY debatable. The majority of Native Americans died of diseases they had no immunity to. And the numbers are almost impossible to nail down. The United States of America was only a very small player in that game anyways. Best guess estimate: There were originally about 14 million Native Americans living in what is now the USA. In the most recent census a little over 2 million people categorized themselves as non-Hispanic, Native American. This does not account for all of the Native American blood that has been mixed into the rest of the population of course.

The biggest credible number that you can come up with: Somewhere between 1 to 4 million Native Americans died due to actions of the USA. Some more sensationalist (and far less historical) accounts try to put the number over 100 million -- which seems a bit of stretch since there never were anywhere close to 100 million Native Americans in the USA at any point in time. And even if it were credible, the highball estimates for Mao Zedong are right in the same neighborhood, and he managed that tally in a lot less time and against his own citizens.

The big players in the massive population reduction of Native Americans were the Portuguese and the Spanish. But how do you determine which were massacred and which died of Smallpox and other diseases? That's where the numbers get pretty tricky.

[Frank_Carbonni]

Originally Posted by Lithium

Real Communism has never existed. Communism is a stateless, classless society. North Korea and The Soviet Union are/were dictatorships...

I love this argument.

Ever think that maybe, just maybe, pure Communism is impossible?