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Africans are green maybe? Or maybe just subtly different shades of brown?
Well I admit I don't know for sure
But I'm pretty sure that an ancient Egyptian wouldn't be considered "black" today. It could be argued that the ancient Hebrews weren't white as well.
No doubt some of them were. And are. I'm skeptical that the Egyptian hierarchy in the lower Nile (the pharaohic dynasties) were what most would consider to be black. The ancient Egyptian civilization seems to be much more akin to the other Middle Eastern civilizations of the same time period.
Piye was the first of the so-called black pharaohs—a series of Nubian kings who ruled over all of Egypt for three-quarters of a century as that country’s 25th dynasty. Through inscriptions carved on stelae by both the Nubians and their enemies, it is possible to map out these rulers’ vast footprint on the continent. The black pharaohs reunified a tattered Egypt and filled its landscape with glorious monuments, creating an empire that stretched from the southern border at present-day Khartoum all the way north to the Mediterranean Sea. They stood up to the bloodthirsty Assyrians, perhaps saving Jerusalem in the process. Until recently, theirs was a chapter of history that largely went untold. Only in the past four decades have archaeologists resurrected their story—and come to recognize that the black pharaohs didn’t appear out of nowhere. They sprang from a robust African civilization that had flourished on the southern banks of the Nile for 2,500 years, going back at least as far as the first Egyptian dynasty.
You are showing the same denial that I was talking about in my last post. You were just presented with studies conducted on the remains of GENERAL early ancient Egyptian populace. Those studies state that they no different than the black Africans populations to the south of them. GET OVER IT!
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I'm skeptical that the Egyptian hierarchy in the lower Nile (the pharaohic dynasties) were what most would consider to be black.
Do you want to know what actual PEER REVIEWED evidence has concluded about the remains of the early ancient Egyptian hierarchy?
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"The predominant craniometric pattern in the Abydos royal tombs is 'southern' (tropical African variant), and this is consistent with what would be expected based on the literature and other results (Keita, 1990). This pattern is seen in both group and unknown analyses (S. Keita (1992) Further Studies of Crania From Ancient Northern Africa: An Analysis of Crania From First Dynasty Egyptian Tombs, Using Multiple Discriminant Functions. AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY 87:245-254)
THEY WERE TROPICAL AFRICANS...MEANING THEY WERE BLACK...GET OVER IT!
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The ancient Egyptian civilization seems to be much more akin to the other Middle Eastern civilizations of the same time period.
YOU ARE WRONG
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"The evidence also points to linkages to other northeast African peoples, not coincidentally approximating the modern range of languages closely related to Egyptian in the Afro-Asiatic group (formerly called Hamito-Semetic). These linguistic similarities place ancient Egyptian in a close relationship with languages spoken today as far west as Chad, and as far south as Somalia. Archaeological evidence also strongly supports an African origin. A widespread northeastern African cultural assemblage, including distinctive multiple barbed harpoons and pottery decorated with dotted wavy line patterns, appears during the early Neolithic (also known as the Aqualithic, a reference to the mild climate of the Sahara at this time).
Saharan and Sudanese rock art from this time resembles early Egyptian iconography. Strong connections between Nubian (Sudanese) and Egyptian material culture continue in later Neolithic Badarian culture of Upper Egypt. Similarities include black-topped wares, vessels with characteristic ripple burnished surfaces, a special tulip-shaped vessel with incised and white-filled decoration, palettes, and harpoons...
Other ancient Egyptian practices show strong similarities to modern African
cultures including divine kingship, the use of headrests, body art, circumcision, and male coming-of-age rituals, all suggesting an African substratum or foundation for Egyptian civilization.
Source: Donald Redford (2001) The Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Egypt,
Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p.28
BLACK AFRICANS ARE THE ONE'S WHO CREATED EGYPT. IT'S 2011 DROP THE RACIST EUROCENTRIC MYTH OF A NON BLACK OR MIXED RACE ORIGIN OF EGYPT
Piye was the first of the so-called black pharaohs—a series of Nubian kings who ruled over all of Egypt for three-quarters of a century as that country’s 25th dynasty. Through inscriptions carved on stelae by both the Nubians and their enemies, it is possible to map out these rulers’ vast footprint on the continent. The black pharaohs reunified a tattered Egypt and filled its landscape with glorious monuments, creating an empire that stretched from the southern border at present-day Khartoum all the way north to the Mediterranean Sea. They stood up to the bloodthirsty Assyrians, perhaps saving Jerusalem in the process. Until recently, theirs was a chapter of history that largely went untold. Only in the past four decades have archaeologists resurrected their story—and come to recognize that the black pharaohs didn’t appear out of nowhere. They sprang from a robust African civilization that had flourished on the southern banks of the Nile for 2,500 years, going back at least as far as the first Egyptian dynasty.
Piye was the first of the so-called black pharaohs—a series of Nubian kings who ruled over all of Egypt for three-quarters of a century as that country’s 25th dynasty. Through inscriptions carved on stelae by both the Nubians and their enemies, it is possible to map out these rulers’ vast footprint on the continent. The black pharaohs reunified a tattered Egypt and filled its landscape with glorious monuments, creating an empire that stretched from the southern border at present-day Khartoum all the way north to the Mediterranean Sea. They stood up to the bloodthirsty Assyrians, perhaps saving Jerusalem in the process. Until recently, theirs was a chapter of history that largely went untold. Only in the past four decades have archaeologists resurrected their story—and come to recognize that the black pharaohs didn’t appear out of nowhere. They sprang from a robust African civilization that had flourished on the southern banks of the Nile for 2,500 years, going back at least as far as the first Egyptian dynasty.
Biologically the early ancient Egyptians, were the same as the "black Nubians":
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"The earliest southern predynastic culture, Badari, owes key
elements to post-desiccation Saharan and also perhaps "Nubian" immigration
(Hassan 1988). Biologically these people were essentially the same." (Keita 1990).
Eurocentrics often try to play the game of referring to the Nubians as black, in reference to the adjacent Egyptians further up the Nile. When in reality the ancient Egyptians were no different biologically from the "black Nubians" as you clearly see above.
Again this just goes to show how silly and dishonest you Eurocentrics are when comes to ancient Egypt. So what, he posted the National Geographic article about the 25th Dynasty in which they refer to as the "Black Pharaohs"! I on the other hand just posted an essential type of evidence that the National Geographic lacks in that entire article...BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE! My evidence proves that the ancient Egyptians were NO DIFFERENT physically from the "so-called" (by the Nat. Geo) "Black Nubians". Therefore logically the "tropically adapted" ancient Egyptians were black as well....GET OVER IT!
Thanks to Elijah Muhammad, Chancellor Williams, and other Afrocentric psuedo-historian crackpots.
No genius, the last time I checked the Oxford Encyclopedia of ancient Egypt nor the American Journal of Physical Anthropology were not written by the "crackpots" you listed above. My information actually comes from those reputed sources that I've just listed. I'm willing to bet that you on the other hand, don't have a single source to refute any of mines.
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