I don't get it. The GOP complains about cutting Medicare. Then they cut (eliminate) Medicare (Representatives, Congressmen)
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During the Obamacare debate, the GOP complained that Obamacare would hurt seniors by cutting Medicare by $500 billion. Then they unanimously vote to eliminate medicare and replace it with vouches that does not guarantee benefits like medicare does. In which every single independent analysis states that seniors will be paying more out of pocket expenses.
With the deflections, someone please explain this to me.
During the Obamacare debate, the GOP complained that Obamacare would hurt seniors by cutting Medicare by $500 billion.
When Democrats LIED and said you can cut $500B out of medicare and not hurt seniors, the GOP simply stated the truth that cuts would be harmful.. Do you really need this to be explained to you?
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Originally Posted by Majin
Then they unanimously vote to eliminate medicare and replace it with vouches that does not guarantee benefits like medicare does.
There is no guaranteed benefits in medicare.
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Originally Posted by Majin
In which every single independent analysis states that seniors will be paying more out of pocket expenses.
So? They will be paying more out of pocket under the Obamacare as well, but you didnt seem to care about that...
And the federal government passing vouchers down to the state, does not automatically result in them paying more. States will have the choice to offer what they wish to offer. They can choose to continue to offer the same benefits currently being offered.
I ignored the partisan bs video because its so full of lies that I'm not even going to begin to go line by line..
That isn't true. It's a lie, explained here (with facts, not opinion).
Who or what is this by?
We heard the Republican representatives come out and say they want the same program that politicians use instead of medicare.
Probably a great way to go.
We heard the Republican representatives come out and say they want the same program that politicians use instead of medicare.
Probably a great way to go.
Source: Congressional Budget office/Bloomberg. This is DIRECTLY from Paul Ryans budgets. Which Republicans unanimously voted on.
We heard the Republican representatives come out and say they want the same program that politicians use instead of medicare.
Probably a great way to go.
Now this is funny.
Politicians use the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan. This is the same plan that federal workers use all the way from GS-1 up through the Senior Executive Service. You have several health insurance companies to choose from. The federal government picks up a portion of your premiums while you pick up the rest.
So when the old folks are put on FEHB just like the politicians, will the government be picking up the employer's portion of the premium just like they do for politicians or will the seniors be required to pay for the annual premium, it total, with their voucher? If so, I'm betting that voucher amount doesn't even begin to cover the premiums. And then there is still paying for the actual cost of the services provided.
real easy to make unsupported claims. let's see what you got. For starters, point out what was false in the video link.... Is there one fact presented in that video that you can disprove?
Does it matter what the source of information is? You automatically dismiss information because of the source? you really that far gone, that you can only believe what you hear in your wing nut echo chamber?
KNOWN TO LIE???? got the FACTS of that one?
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Originally Posted by pghquest
If you wanted to discuss facts, why would you link to a partisan bs source known to lie to people
real easy to make unsupported claims. let's see what you got. For starters, point out what was false in the video link.... Is there one fact presented in that video that you can disprove?
Does it matter what the source of information is? You automatically dismiss information because of the source? you really that far gone, that you can only believe what you hear in your wing nut echo chamber?
KNOWN TO LIE???? got the FACTS of that one?
sounds like this is only opinion...
To further the point. Forget the commentator, the source is the congressional budget office and bloomberg. Where are your guys sources?
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