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Old 05-16-2011, 02:31 AM
 
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Could Ron Paul's logical reasoning convince neo-conservatives to change their opinion on these topics?


1. Ron Paul wants to cut foreign aid to Israel. He is also sure that Israel is capable of defending itself and that the US should not take a side in the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

"This notion that we have to support them over the Palestinians – we shouldn’t favor one over the other.
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Ron Paul: We Shouldn

2. Ron Paul doesn't buy the "they hate us for our freedom" or "the Koran tells them to kill us"-BS.
"Al Quaida is growing because of our policy, the national security is threatened because of our policy"


YouTube - Ron Paul schools Bill O'Reilly

3. He is opposed to the anti-Muslim movement. Al-Quaida was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, and not all Muslims. Its a shame how some Americans talk about and think about Muslims in general.

"In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars.

The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.
The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11."



YouTube - Ron Paul: Goal Of Protesting NYC Mosque Is To Blame Islam For 9/11

4. He opposed the Patriot Act. Reconsidering the Patriot Act by Rep. Ron Paul

5. He opposed the war in Iraq. Ron Paul's Iraq Speech - Wikisource

6. He calls out the Neo-Cons that try to hijack the Tea Party movement.

As one who is opposed to centralization, I am wary of attempts to turn a grassroots movement against big government like the Tea Party into an adjunct of the Republican Party. I find it even more worrisome when I see those who willingly participated in the most egregious excesses of the most recent Republican Congress push their way into leadership roles of this movement without batting an eye -- or changing their policies!

A Tea Party Foreign Policy - By Ron Paul | Foreign Policy
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:52 AM
 
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Ron Paul is not a nutter.

They will tear him asunder.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:07 AM
 
Location: NC
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Screw Neo-Cons.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:33 AM
 
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Ron Paul = Winning
Neo-Cons = Losing
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:35 AM
 
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The hard right will do what fox news tell them, which is to discredit and dislike Paul. They will rally behind whomever will be the farthest right candidate approved and pushed by Murdoch and the Koch's.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:09 AM
 
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The hard right will do what fox news tell them, which is to discredit and dislike Paul. They will rally behind whomever will be the farthest right candidate approved and pushed by Murdoch and the Koch's.
You seem confused,it is the neo-cons who hate Ron Paul.

Neo-cons are,interestingly enough,former leftists a lot of the time.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You seem confused,it is the neo-cons who hate Ron Paul.

Neo-cons are,interestingly enough,former leftists a lot of the time.
The problem is that people are using one-dimension to describe what exists in at least 2 dimensions. Try to draw a square using one just the X axis on the Cartesian plane, see how realistic it is.



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Old 05-16-2011, 06:48 AM
 
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Ron Paul is weak on national security. A vote for Paul is a vote to weaken the USA.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Ron Paul is weak on national security. A vote for Paul is a vote to weaken the USA.

Why do you support invading other nations and unprovoked wars?
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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Why do you support invading other nations and unprovoked wars?
I didn't support the Iraq war. I support taking out bin laden. Ron Paul doesn't. If Ron Paul was president today, Osama bin Laden would still be alive. I can't vote for weakness.
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