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Old 05-17-2011, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Europe
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If some of you really think government should not tell you what to do, how do you feel about these things?

1. Smoking in private businesses (such as restaurants, Bars). A private business owner should have the right to make this decision for his own business. Customers are not forced to go there.

2. Legalization of drugs. No need for a nanny state to tell people what to do. The War on drugs is too expensive anyways and not very succesful.

3. Legalization of Prostitution. What if a woman/man choses to do this? Why shouldn't she/he be allowed to do that?

4. Assisted suicide.

5. Gambling. Again, no need for a nanny state to tell adults what to do.

...I am sure there are more examples. Feel free to post them.

Keep in mind, I want to start a discussion. I don't necessary believe that all these things should be allowed. I am curious how many people that complain about a nanny state, would actually support these things above.

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Old 05-17-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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If some of you really think government should not tell you what to do, how do you feel about these things?

1. Smoking in private businesses (such as restaurants, Bars). A private business owner should have the right to make this decision for his own business. Customers are not forced to go there.

agreed 100%

2. Legalization of drugs. No need for a nanny state to tell people what to do. The War on drugs is too expensive anyways and not very succesful.

i'm kind of torn about this one...i'm all for the complete legalization of marijuana, but not so sure about most other drugs. one thing i know, the war on drugs is a complete failure, and something has to change.

3. Legalization of Prostitution. What if a woman/man choses to do this? Why shouldn't she/he be allowed to do that?

all for legalization.

4. Assisted suicide.

very torn on this one...

5. Gambling. Again, no need for a nanny state to tell adults what to do.

100% agreed.

...I am sure there are more examples. Feel free to post them.

Keep in mind, I want to start a discussion. I don't necessary believe that all these things should be allowed. I am curious how many people that complain about a nanny state, would actually support these things above.


my comments in red.
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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If some of you really think government should not tell you what to do, how do you feel about these things?

1. Smoking in private businesses (such as restaurants, Bars). A private business owner should have the right to make this decision for his own business. Customers are not forced to go there.
None of the governments business. They have bigger problems that they should be worrying about.

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2. Legalization of drugs. No need for a nanny state to tell people what to do. The War on drugs is too expensive anyways and not very successful
Might as well and tax these drugs. People take these drugs whether legal or not. We may as well derive some tax dollars from it.

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3. Legalization of Prostitution. What if a woman/man choses to do this? Why shouldn't she/he be allowed to do that?
It is already legalized. Example: marriages "for the kids" and of convenience.

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4. Assisted suicide.
Completely okay with this. Once again, none of the governments business. Besides, if unassisted suicide is in reality not punishable, why should this be?

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5. Gambling. Again, no need for a nanny state to tell adults what to do.
Gambling exists all across the nation. The government turns a blind eye to most of it. Witness Superbowl betting pools and such.

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...I am sure there are more examples. Feel free to post them.
Another one is the government attempt to force the citizens to purchase health insurance or pay a fine. Soon it would become government approved healthcare. No choice allowed to the citizens, just do as you are told.

Anyway, these are my opinions on the subject.
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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Leave it up to the States.
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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1. A business owner should be allowed to choose if they want smoking or not, but all employees must also consent to it.

2. I totally support the legalization of marijuana. I am ambivalent about hard drugs, although if they were heavily regulated that would be better. The War on Drugs is a waste of money and lives.

3. Also ambivalent because of the prevalence of minors being trafficked in prostitution. Just look at the ****up that is the Netherlands:

Prostitution in the Netherlands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4. Okay with it. If I don't want to continue suffering through the pain of a terminal illness, who the hell are you to say I should?

5. Meh. People should be educated and informed of their odds of winning, but otherwise if you want to be a fool with your money...
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Leave it up to the States.
That would require the feds to relinquish some of their self appointed power. In other words, never going to happen.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I abhor a nanny state, but the fact that people in general are so stupid and irresponsible makes it really easy for the govt to make the argument for it.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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If some of you really think government should not tell you what to do, how do you feel about these things?

1. Smoking in private businesses (such as restaurants, Bars). A private business owner should have the right to make this decision for his own business. Customers are not forced to go there.
I kind of agree on this one, personally I hate smoking but on the other hand I can not see why we just can't create a law allowing a business to post outside that it is a smoking zone and let the customer decide if they want to open the door or not.

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2. Legalization of drugs. No need for a nanny state to tell people what to do. The War on drugs is too expensive anyways and not very succesful.
Not only no, but HELL NO! Things are bad enough with these kids having to spend a lot of money and worry about being busted. You make it legal and you might as well throw away an entire generation. Don't believe me? Look around you and see how today's kids behave with cell phones.

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3. Legalization of Prostitution. What if a woman/man choses to do this? Why shouldn't she/he be allowed to do that?
While I am against prostitution, I don't see why it can't be made legal as long as the individuals are licensed and forced to carry health check cards. But based on the fact that you want drugs to be legal as well you probably wouldn't want the government involved here either.... can you say STD?

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4. Assisted suicide.
I believe that suicide is wrong. No matter what is going on in your life, tomorrow might be worth living for. I think assisted suicide should be illegal, if you feel strongly enough about ending your life, you should take care of it yourself. (and for those cases where they are unable to physically do it themselves, they could stop eating if they want).

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5. Gambling. Again, no need for a nanny state to tell adults what to do.
I live in the Vegas valley, and while my economy is based largely on gambling, I can tell you that gambling as a whole is a bad thing. For every winner you see hundreds of losers, for every successful gambler, you see some poor guy in a hotel room sitting on the bed wondering how to tell his wife that he just lost their retirement fund. It is an evil thing, dress up in thrills and flashing lights.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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If some of you really think government should not tell you what to do, how do you feel about these things?
Lonely

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1. Smoking in private businesses (such as restaurants, Bars). A private business owner should have the right to make this decision for his own business. Customers are not forced to go there.
Sole or soul proprietorships set the rules (law) on their properties. Mutual consent is king. Corporatists can kiss my royal red hotchie.

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2. Legalization of drugs. No need for a nanny state to tell people what to do. The War on drugs is too expensive anyways and not very succesful.
Repeal any statute contemptuous of the Ninth Amendment. Otherwise, its war.

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3. Legalization of Prostitution. What if a woman/man choses to do this? Why shouldn't she/he be allowed to do that?
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4. Assisted suicide.
Law enforcement offers this service free of charge.

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5. Gambling. Again, no need for a nanny state to tell adults what to do.
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The nanny state is for corporations, not individuals.

Don't make me have to become a sovereign.

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Old 05-17-2011, 12:24 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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If some of you really think government should not tell you what to do, how do you feel about these things?

1. Smoking in private businesses (such as restaurants, Bars). A private business owner should have the right to make this decision for his own business. Customers are not forced to go there. Agree 100%! Leave it up to the business. Government buildings, and hospitals are one thing, but leave it up to the owner of private businesses!

2. Legalization of drugs. No need for a nanny state to tell people what to do. The War on drugs is too expensive anyways and not very succesful. Agree as well. The only thing I might have an issue with is meth, as it really is dangerous to the user, and the person making it. And while I don't condone the use of harder drugs such as cocaine and heroin, hey... if you're stupid enough to partake in them, then you must be willing to accept the consequences that comes with their usage!

3. Legalization of Prostitution. What if a woman/man choses to do this? Why shouldn't she/he be allowed to do that? Again, if someone is that desparate to pay for sex, then so be it! It's not something that I would personally do though.

4. Assisted suicide. I'm on the fence on this one. I mean, if a loved one is truly suffering, and there is no hope for a cure, then perhaps.

5. Gambling. Again, no need for a nanny state to tell adults what to do. I don't gamble, but again to each their own.

...I am sure there are more examples. Feel free to post them.

Keep in mind, I want to start a discussion. I don't necessary believe that all these things should be allowed. I am curious how many people that complain about a nanny state, would actually support these things above.

My responses are in red.
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