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The problem isn't a republican or democrat issue, conservative or liberal issue, it appears to be one that concerns men.
I don't think it's necessarily a relationship problem because the marriages of these men are basically in tact without the infidelity.
People cheat in relationships, but when it comes to men in positions of power (politicians for instance) they operate in an insidious manner, and their ego allows them to disregard their public images and destroy many lives with selfish actions.
Someone said something today that I think hits the nail on the head:
A man's fidelity is inversely proportional to the number of opportunities he has to cheat.
Men with money and power have women throwing themselves at them ALL THE TIME. Possibly several times a day (vs the average guy...pffft).
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Well it's probably the other way around. Men's desire is to have sex. The evolutionary rationale for desiring sex is that sex leads to propagation of the species. But with modern technologies like birth control, the link between sex and reproduction can be severed. Something that other species haven't accomplished yet.
The evolutionary rationale is the reason that something tends to be the case in the first place; this may or may not line up with the personal rationale (which is probably going to be something more like "pleasure"). Pleasure is the "proximal" motivating factor that drives forward the underlying evolutionary tendency.
Well, that requires a bit more explanation. First, I wouldn't be so sure that most men don't cheat. That's quite an assumption. And I'd certainly doubt that most men in positions of power or wealth are faithful. As noted by other posters, a man's fidelity has a lot to do with his options.
Second, a biological drive doesn't necessarily result in majority behavior. That depends on other factors. The strength of the drive, the social/legal sanctions against it, the ease of carrying it out, and so on. For instance, people are inclined to scratch parts of their skin that start to itch - that's a biological impulse - but most will refrain from scratching their genitals in public. That doesn't mean the drive doesn't exist - just that it is constrained by other factors.
It's both. Men take what they can get within reasonable boundaries. For example, a man might have a strong desire to have more sex, but still won't solicit a prostitute out of fear of arrest. Also, most men have age cutoffs that women don't. Women are still willing to shack up with much older men if the men have status or wealth; the opposite isn't usually the case.
I'm going to take a very simplistic view on this. I don't discount "biology", but we still have the capacity to choose, even in the what appears to be the height of arrousal, passion, attraction, whatever. There is still a shred of conscience left and that conscience tells you what you're about to do is wrong.
Someone said something today that I think hits the nail on the head:
A man's fidelity is inversely proportional to the number of opportunities he has to cheat.
Men with money and power have women throwing themselves at them ALL THE TIME. Possibly several times a day (vs the average guy...pffft).
Yup. That's why not only politician, but rock stars and movie stars end up with such high divorce rates. A LOT of women throw themselves at those types of men so there's LOTS of temptation.
Also - something else to consider is the fact that certain types of men are DRAWN to those types of professions and often these types of men are the ones most "needy" of adoration and acclaim. Such men are generally pretty easy tempted by the opposite sex - for those very same reasons.
"Needy" personality + lots of opportunity for infidelity = lots of infidelity.
It's pretty simple.
Using genetics to justify cheating behavior is a cop-out.
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There is still a shred of conscience left and that conscience tells you what you're about to do is wrong.
Biology is an explanation rather than a justification. An appeal to morality is completely in-line with what I described earlier - it's an attempt to create a social constraint on a biologically-driven behavior.
But sometimes things are more complex than they appear. Sometimes there will be a marriage arrangement that is primarily done for money/power/family reasons, and both spouses "go their separate ways" when it comes to personal affairs.
Or, as we've seen before, the wife may simply choose to ignore the infidelity in exchange for monetary compensation in the form of presents, gifts, or outright cash.
I'm going to take a very simplistic view on this. I don't discount "biology", but we still have the capacity to choose, even in the what appears to be the height of arrousal, passion, attraction, whatever. There is still a shred of conscience left and that conscience tells you what you're about to do is wrong.
Good post.
Humans may be animals but they are still animals with free will and are not programmed to cheat.
What does whom a politician is ****ing have to do with their abilities as an elected official?
If you look at the list of US presidents who cheated on their wives and the list of US presidents who didn't cheat on their wives, the ones on the list of cheaters tended to be much better presidents
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