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Old 05-18-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Someone send this guy golfing...Syria now ?
Don't we have our hands full with Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya ?
Really ?

Oh and BTW..we're going to give MORE money away to ME countries
And Egypt..forget that $1billion you owe and and here's a guarantee for another $1 billion.

Obama to pressure Assad, offer aid to reformers - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_mideast - broken link)
"President Barack Obama will use a sweeping Middle East speech on Thursday to sharply defend new sanctions on Syrian President Bashar Assad as the U.S. government toughened its message for the repressive leader: Embrace democracy or get out. In a primary thrust of his address, Obama will also announce aid to countries that embrace reforms, hoping to steer a region roiling in violence toward democratic change that lasts."
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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The most dangerous president ever is going to start WWIII before we can yank him out in 2012.
Thank you Obama for making Americans less safe at home and abroad.
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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The planners are planning again. This is kinda surprising to me. Either Obama is a hawk or he believes he doesn't know enough about foreign policy to questions the people he's surrounded himself with.

You would think he would have learned, though, with Libya. If you tell a leader of a country he's got to go you need to be prepared to lose big and be severely undermined if he doesn't.

Is the power changing him? I remember reading an article in the Harvard Law Review that had Obama as clearly a dove and very naive on what the Reagan administration was trying to accomplish with the SU.
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Yeah, right, if he were to keep quiet, nutjobs will accuse him of inaction and inefficiency.

Frankly, I'm kind of bored with the 1-0 binary bouches
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Someone send this guy golfing...Syria now ?
Don't we have our hands full with Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya ?
Really ?

Oh and BTW..we're going to give MORE money away to ME countries
And Egypt..forget that $1billion you owe and and here's a guarantee for another $1 billion.

Obama to pressure Assad, offer aid to reformers - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_mideast - broken link)
"President Barack Obama will use a sweeping Middle East speech on Thursday to sharply defend new sanctions on Syrian President Bashar Assad as the U.S. government toughened its message for the repressive leader: Embrace democracy or get out. In a primary thrust of his address, Obama will also announce aid to countries that embrace reforms, hoping to steer a region roiling in violence toward democratic change that lasts."
GWB wasn't right very often, but I gotta give W credit for anticipating the democracy movement in the ME. Many of the so-called experts thought Bush was out of his mind, but events have proved him right.

So, he was off by a decade! And mistaken that we could export democracy at bayonet-point.

It is Obama's fate to be president when W's ME Democracy baby is being born. It is a messy time ( just like a real child birth). Obama is a pragmatist (unlike W, who was an idealist), and he is taking the pragmatic approach, tayloring our response to each country (what works in Egypt won't work in Libya, and neither strategy will work in Syria, for example)

Obama and his DS/DD team deserve a lot of credit, up to this point, for knowing when to use force, and when to play wait 'n see. So far, so good, but it is a very dynamic situation, to say the least.
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, right, if he were to keep quiet, nutjobs will accuse him of inaction and inefficiency.

Frankly, I'm kind of bored with the 1-0 binary bouches
Wait..are we going backwards now ?

Didn't Obama get into office on his promise to get OUT of the ME ?
Didn't he win a Nobel Peace Prize ?

How many simultaneous wars can the US manage ?
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Wait..are we going backwards now ?

Didn't Obama get into office on his promise to get OUT of the ME ?
Didn't he win a Nobel Peace Prize ?

How many simultaneous wars can the US manage ?
I don't see any invasion force landing in Libya or Syria, did you see any
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't see any invasion force landing in Libya or Syria, did you see any
So only "boots on the ground" counts ?
What happens on Day 61 in Congress regarding Libya ?
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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I don't see any invasion force landing in Libya or Syria, did you see any
And your crystal ball tells you beyond a shadow of a doubt none will be forthcoming?
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:09 PM
 
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I don't see any invasion force landing in Libya or Syria, did you see any
Do you understand the implications of a U.S. president calling for the removal of another leader of another sovereign country? It's not like Obama can say "just kidding" if the guy doesn't leave. He backed himself into a corner.
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