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Old 05-19-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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So, instead of getting an abortion if a woman is raped, she should buy a gun? Thats the answer?

What happens if it misfires? What if she misses (even the best shots miss)?

What a silly answer. You don't always see them coming.
99% of being prepared means that the weapon is clean and in good repair, and ammunition selection has been done with due diligence and scrutiny. It also means that the one who possesses that firearm has had plenty of range time, studied the weapon and it's limits.
Sorry, but the silly answer is accepting it morally superior to end the life of an innocent unborn fetus instead of putting a would-be rapist on the ground, rapidly approaching room temperature.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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99% of being prepared means that the weapon is clean and in good repair, and ammunition selection has been done with due diligence and scrutiny. It also means that the one who possesses that firearm has had plenty of range time, studied the weapon and it's limits.
Sorry, but the silly answer is accepting it morally superior to end the life of an innocent unborn fetus instead of putting a would-be rapist on the ground, rapidly approaching room temperature.
Again, these are two different topics.

Rapes happen yes. Will rapes happen if every woman on the planet was armed, yes.

So ending a pregnancy caused by a rape, even from a woman that was "prepared" doesn't have a damn thing to do with how prepared she was.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Government taxes should not be funding the end of a baby's life.
Why is everything supposed to be paid for by government (which is really US)?

If someone is mugged is there a right for government to pay those hospital bills? No.

A victim of a crime or incest does IMO not have the right to have taxes (US) pay for their medical treatment.

Most people are not flat broke unless they are on welfare, so to come up with the $300 should not be impossible. People can also borrow it from parents, family and so forth.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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Again, these are two different topics.

Rapes happen yes. Will rapes happen if every woman on the planet was armed, yes.

So ending a pregnancy caused by a rape, even from a woman that was "prepared" doesn't have a damn thing to do with how prepared she was.
Not at all, but the action is in the topic of why we are supposed to pay for their medical treatment to end a baby's life?
Let them pay the $300 as one would if they were mugged or robbed.
Why is the USA taxpayers supposed to pay for most everything in some people's lives? Rediculous.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:37 PM
 
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With the cuts in the police force that has become necessary. What, rehire those officers? No we can't do that.
I bet there are better than 1 million women who never saw a cop as she was being raped. Unless it was a cop raping her.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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What's wrong with planning ahead? I have long term disability insurance. Isnt that a major argument in government funded abortions by pro-deathers, unwanted pregnancies are a disability?
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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Carrying one of these daily and knowing how to use it will deter a rapist and possibly disable his tool forever.

http://www.striderknives.com/site/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/d4547bdc9bd58a7d56ac27bacbd0a8bd.jpg (broken link)
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Here's an article about Republicans removing abortion coverage even if the victim is raped.

Lawmaker Says Women Should Plan Ahead in Case of Rape, Since He Carries A Spare Tire

But of course. That way they can continue to blame the victim and say it was her fault for not being prepared.

The war on women continues.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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Again, these are two different topics.

Rapes happen yes. Will rapes happen if every woman on the planet was armed, yes.

So ending a pregnancy caused by a rape, even from a woman that was "prepared" doesn't have a damn thing to do with how prepared she was.
Okay. For the sake of your argument, let us believe that women will continue to be raped. They certainly will, because you will never arm 100% of them and teach them to defend themselves. Criminals commit crimes, and no amount of laws will stop that. But I have questions....
How many women become pregnant by rape every year?
Is the number so great that it could not be handled by each state?
Is it the responsibility of the Federal government to bear the cost of eliminating that particulat unwanted pregnancy?
How much does an abortion cost?
Am I to believe that no one in this country would be charitable enough to bear the cost, and that it therefore must be equally divided by every tax paying citizen in the country?
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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Am I the only one who sees how disturbing it is that a spare tire was brought up in a debate about abortion and rape? Really???? Is it an overreation to be highly offended by Rep. DeGraaf blase attitude? Yes, yes, little lady you should be prepared in case someone forcibly violates you in the most intimate and personal way, I have a spare tire!!!!! What an ***.
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