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Old 05-19-2011, 06:39 AM
 
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No matter what you do for a living, is anyone entitled to a % of your earnings from your labor?

To put it into its simplest form, let's say that your labor produces $1000 per week. Is anyone entitled to a % of that earning?

You labor for 40 hours a week. Your neighbor doesn't. Should you be mandated to hand over 30% to him? How about 10%? What about 5%?
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:42 AM
 
Location: In a house
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No matter what you do for a living, is anyone entitled to a % of your earnings from your labor?

To put it into its simplest form, let's say that your labor produces $1000 per week. Is anyone entitled to a % of that earning?

You labor for 40 hours a week. Your neighbor doesn't. Should you be mandated to hand over 30% to him? How about 10%? What about 5%?

Nope. Most certainly not the govt. Taxing money people work for is tyranny.
We got along for a looooong time without having to do so but theres not much chance of going back now.
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:45 AM
 
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No matter what you do for a living, is anyone entitled to a % of your earnings from your labor?

To put it into its simplest form, let's say that your labor produces $1000 per week. Is anyone entitled to a % of that earning?

You labor for 40 hours a week. Your neighbor doesn't. Should you be mandated to hand over 30% to him? How about 10%? What about 5%?

The problems with socialism become readily apparent when evaluated on a micro scale. Ask anyone on the street to give you $100 and you will readily see why socialism on a sustained basis is not only impossible, the concept is somewhat comical.
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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Well, first of all, very few people on this board actually work, much less work forty hours per week.

Anyway, a very simplistic viewpoint of society.

Last year I paid some $23,000 in Federal income tax, not to mention state taxes of various sorts. While a lot of that money is obviously wasted, I do appreciate the military, roads, FICA, police, fire department, schools, county hospitals, libraries, etc.

I do subscribe to a flat-tax idea. My brother-in-law, a self-proclaimed member of the Tea Party (if it were an actual, organized organization that required 'dues' or membership fees, he would probably not be a member) always gripes about taxes, although all he does is sit on his butt at home, watching television, and collecting Federal disability benefits. Yet he also finds time to scream about pot-holes in the street, since they cause his new pick-up truck to 'bump' when he drives. Such is life.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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Welfare handouts have to be cut.

The welfare class is growing at very high rates, food stamps, Medicaid - no limit on how many people can join those programs, and they can come from other countries to live out their lives on welfare handouts here. They are the only ones not expected to do any belt tightening during a recession.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No matter what you do for a living, is anyone entitled to a % of your earnings from your labor?

To put it into its simplest form, let's say that your labor produces $1000 per week. Is anyone entitled to a % of that earning?

You labor for 40 hours a week. Your neighbor doesn't. Should you be mandated to hand over 30% to him? How about 10%? What about 5%?
Depends on a lot of factors.

Do you benefit from the added security of a country that cares for its poor and elderly? Business doesn't function well in anarchy. If so then you should have to pay more, as the percentage of gain you get is higher, assuming you make more than most Americans because you own your own business.

Am I drawing in the majority of the money I paid out for retirement and healthcare? If so, then I'm not actually paying for anyone elses care, just mine.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Well, first of all, very few people on this board actually work, much less work forty hours per week.

Anyway, a very simplistic viewpoint of society.

Last year I paid some $23,000 in Federal income tax, not to mention state taxes of various sorts. While a lot of that money is obviously wasted, I do appreciate the military, roads, FICA, police, fire department, schools, county hospitals, libraries, etc.

I do subscribe to a flat-tax idea. My brother-in-law, a self-proclaimed member of the Tea Party (if it were an actual, organized organization that required 'dues' or membership fees, he would probably not be a member) always gripes about taxes, although all he does is sit on his butt at home, watching television, and collecting Federal disability benefits. Yet he also finds time to scream about pot-holes in the street, since they cause his new pick-up truck to 'bump' when he drives. Such is life.
You do realize that most conservatives and libertarians don't mind taxes right? Things like roads and police facilitate the functioning of a free society and economy. The returns you get from having well paved roads and a strong police force in the community vastly exceed the amount of taxes required to sustain them, these sorts of things are fine.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:13 AM
 
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Depends on a lot of factors.

Do you benefit from the added security of a country that cares for its poor and elderly?
Lets ask the guy who who the Detroit lottery and still collects food stamps....that you and I pay for....
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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The only person who is truly "entitled" to a percentage of my income would be the owner of the company I might be working for.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You do realize that most conservatives and libertarians don't mind taxes right? Things like roads and police facilitate the functioning of a free society and economy. The returns you get from having well paved roads and a strong police force in the community vastly exceed the amount of taxes required to sustain them, these sorts of things are fine.
Our police would be doing quite well if we ended the stupid drug enforcement efforts that they have to try and accomplish.

95% of all drugs shipped to the United States make it to the point of sale. Yet we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a drug war that we will never win
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