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thats rasmussen to, so add on another 3.5 points to that 54 percent.
I blame congress for so easily giving up their control over legislation to the executive power. Wars no longer need to be declared by congress, budgets don't need to be balanced, and they've slowly allowed the government policies to impose on the individual liberties the constitution is sworn protect.
Congress is just as much to blame, as it was originally created to have more power than the executive branch, yet it's given up that power and the president can start any war and write any law he pleases.
Exactly....and if you read the story carefully, paying attention to the exact words used when it mentions the recession, it also doesn't actually blame Bush or his policies. It's easy to make the assumption that they're blaming Bush when they refer to the recession because of the way it's being worded.
They describe the recession four times in the article:
"A majority of voters continues to blame the nation’s economic problems on the George W. Bush years"
"A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 54% of Likely Voters say the nation’s current economic problems are due to the recession that began under the Bush administration".
"In surveys since May 2009, 47% to 62% of voters have blamed the nation's economic woes on the recession that began under Bush".
"While 86% of Democrats and 52% of voters not affiliated with either political party blame the recession under Bush for today’s economic problems"
The headline reads:
"54% Blame Bush Recession For Current Economic Problems"
In each case they very carefully do not blame Bush, they blame the recession that started when he was in office. They don't blame him for the recession or his policies for starting the recession. You read it and you would think they were but, it stops just short of doing that...because they can't, the question asked in the poll is clearly not placing any blame directly on Bush.
The headline IMO, comes the closest to blaming Bush, by referring to it as the "Bush Recession" but,
People are going to say, "Well of course it's his fault....it was on his watch when it started"....and that's a an entirely different debate. As far as this article goes, whether or not the recession that started under Bush is his fault, is not part of the questions asked in the poll.
I think some in the public will often refer to things like this as a lie after reading it although, it's not. It's factual but, easily misinterpreted...they don't even realize the assumptions that they're making. Especially if they're already biased....they can read it over and over and not realize that they're doing that. Then you have all bloggers that are going to add to the confusion with the assumptions they may be making if they re-write or paraphrase it when they put it some where on the Internet.
I've noticed some politicians now very carefully using the word "misinformation" to criticize something like this article above. I think that's a better way of describing a scenario like this but, many in the public (again, especially if they're already biased) will make the assumption that it's just another way of accusing someone of lying. It's not though, it can mean a number of things, the most common of which I think is (intentionally or unintentionally) omitting.
That's another reason Mitch Daniels decided not to run. He was Bush 43's BUDGET DIRECTOR from 2001 to 2003. Having him run brings up all the economic missteps of the Bush 43 administration and THAT DOES NOT SERVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WELL.
In fact my prediction is that no high level official from the Bush 43 administration EVER gets elected to the White House.
How can any thinking person not blame Bush for the current recession? He was president for the 8 years preceeding.
There were many policies that opened the door for our jobs to leave and which allowed the housing "bubble" -- and allowed bankers to rob and destroy our economy for the second time in our country's history that Bush can't be held responsible for. The republican party absolutely can be blamed for these policies.
This "recession" was inherited by the present administration; it was in full bloom when the current administration took office. It's going to take years to rebuild the ruins left by "trickle down economics", tax breaks for the wealthy, lack of regulation and their "free market" politics. Where we are today are proof of what these policies can achieve.
And, now the republicans have the audacity to try to pass the buck and even insist that they are the party that can fix what ails us.
Last edited by World Citizen; 06-03-2011 at 07:59 AM..
How can any thinking person not blame Bush for the current recession? He was president for the 8 years preceeding.
There were many policies that opened the door for our jobs to leave and which allowed the housing "bubble" -- and allowed bankers to rob and destroy our economy for the second time in our country's history that Bush can't be held responsible for. The republican party certainly can be blamed for these policies.
This "recession" was inherited by the present administration; it was in full bloom when the current administration took office. It's going to take years to rebuild the ruins left by "trickle down economics", tax breaks for the wealthy, lack of regulation and their "free market" politics. Where we are today are proof of what these policies can achieve.
And, now the republicans have the nerve to try to pass the buck and insist that they are the party that can fix what ails us.
To say that your facts are wrong, and that you are politically brainwashed is an understatement.
"Some people say the nation’s current economic problems are due to the recession which began under the Bush Administration. Others say the problems are being caused more by the policies President Obama has put in place since taking office. Which point of view comes closest to your own?"
Nowhere in that question does it state "Is it Bush's fault?" It asks if you think the state of the economy today is correlated more with the recession that started in 2007 or more with Obama's own policies.
Uh, that was the question. They just used more and larger words.
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