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Old 05-21-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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The Shill in the White House is merely going after more feathers to put in his campaign hat. If Obobo can get a "peace" deal with the UNpeaceable Palis, he is sure to get reelected. Four more years in which to continue destroying our nation.
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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A bit weird to say that, isn't it? How are the Paleastinians going to fight against American made tanks, air to surface rockets, cluster bombs, white phosphorous bombs.
How are they to fight against those weapons? I keep wondering that but they are used as "cannon fodder" by the Muslims who run Hamas and therefore Palestine. I don't know of any army that uses suicide bombers to arouse the Israelis to killing civilians but then the Palestinians don't have an army.

Get real and try to see that the Israelis are willing to fight to the end to protect what is really their homeland. Yes, I know about the changes in who controlled what and when but I am sure that even you know that Muslims came very late in that history. The Hegira of Mohammed took place in 622 AD which was after the Israelites had been spread around that part of the world by force. Their ancestors lived there long before Allah was a part of belief and once they got it back they knew they had to fight to keep it.
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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There never was a country named Palestine. Their original home is Jordan. Why won't the Jordanians let them back in? Have an answer?

Jordon will not let them back in because it is better to use them to harrass Israel.

This is like having a neighbor that refuses to put a fence up to contain his dog because the dog keeps the other guys kids inside and from making a bunch of noise in their backyard while playing.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You have to know that it isn't a two state solution that we don't support. You have to know that the suggestion of pre-Six Day War boundaries is an attempt at returning the Israelis to an indefensible position. Surely you understand that that is not political, in any way, but is surely aimed at weakening the only ally we have in the Middle East.

Everyone with an ounce of reason understands that the Palestinians aren't really against a two state solution but they don't really get much say in it as to what boundaries will be used. Hamas is not a group of Palestinians but is run from outside by Arabs who don't have to live in that god forsaken land but are very willing to use the Palestinians as a civilian army against the Israelis.

It is no longer important what Bush wanted although I don't remember him standing up and proposing something that would destroy Israel like using that nearly 50 year old set of boundaries to start from.
Well, it just happenes to be what Bush and Republicans pushed for and you supported it. Why did you support it then, and oppose it now? But of course neither Bush nor Obama said the lines should be drawn at the same exact line where they used to be. Both presidents said the old lines can be used as starting point and then negociated and mutually agreed.

It is beyond obvious that neither Israel nor Palestinians who rejected the "road map" with Bush, will reject it today again.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A bit weird to say that, isn't it? How are the Paleastinians going to fight against American made tanks, air to surface rockets, cluster bombs, white phosphorous bombs.
Right. Especially when Obama's plan calls for the disarmament of Palestinians.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Clarification: Palestinians as Arabs are semites, and thus, Obama being anti-Semitic would mean he hates the Israelis AND Palestinians.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Well, it just happenes to be what Bush and Republicans pushed for and you supported it. Why did you support it then, and oppose it now? But of course neither Bush nor Obama said the lines should be drawn at the same exact line where they used to be. Both presidents said the old lines can be used as starting point and then negociated and mutually agreed.

It is beyond obvious that neither Israel nor Palestinians who rejected the "road map" with Bush, will reject it today again.
Why is it that Democrats think we are like them, blindly supporting everything a Republican President does? Obama wouldn't be in office without the "disgusted with our party" Republicans. Unlike most liberals who are liberal to the end, we tend to still believe the notion of "what can we do for our country, not what our country can do for us" mantra. It was coined by a Democrat, fifty years ago, when being one meant something more than it does now.

Smaller government, less regulation, less taxes, balance the budget and if our next Republican President can't do it, he'll be out on his ear...

Most of us (conervatives) have made it clear, time and time again, that we didn't like Bush at all! Now we're sick of hearing how it's still his fault and using lame excuses to continue (advance) his horrible policies.

Look how bad the country has become in just 3 years, do you think we can survive 5 more?
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