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America has no countrymen. It's everybody for himself. People compete with each other for the basics, food, shelter, and clothing. Like wild beasts.
I look out for myself and my family 1st. I will not make excuses for that.
and you want us to trust in theese kind of people to give us everything. I would trust a wild beast before any man. witch is one of the reason the founding fathers created the great document. you want to place too much power into the hands of a few people who think they know best. you are too trusting of men.
Nor is there a response to my request for a link proving that the assertion that the lottery winner in Michigan is not an isolated case is a valid one.
Are you not familiar with the concept of "example?"
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I think the system just favours selfishness and selfish-ambition, so naturally, those who don't care how unfair it all is will get to the top. You think folk like Rockefeller and Bill Gates dealt honestly to get to the top?
There certainly are people who abuse the system. Just recently exposed was the Michigan guy who won a $2 million lottery and via a loophole continues to receive Food Stamps which we all pay for. Not an isolated case of abuse.
If the Federal Government would quit robbing us of so much money, it would certainly free up Individual and Local Funds to provide help to those that truly need it.
BTW, the Welfare Program is not at the top of the list for debt problems to be solved if Ron Paul gets elected. He knows there are bigger drains out there and he is smart enough to know Rome wasn't built in a day. But the ideology of a much smaller Federal lGovernment and more power to the States and Freedom for the Individuals will be the guiding light.
Yes, I know perfectly well what an example is. I also understand the trick of using the most extreme example possible to skew a discussion. Welfare is 12% of our national budget, and the average payment for a family of four is roughly $500 per month, while a single recipient can expect about $300 a month. If the man in Michigan isn't an isolated case, perhaps you'd be kind enough to provide a link illustrating how people are getting wealthy on $500 a month. If someone cheats and gets a double dip, that is still only $1000 a month, which is poverty level by any standard. No doubt that the 12% could be lowered if American businesses hired American workers, but that won't be happening any time soon.
[quote] The most accurate figure I’ve found for the US is from a 2002 report by The US Department of Labor which says that 1.9% of the total Unemployment Insurance payments for 2001 were attributable to fraud or abuse within the UI program. [end quote]
So I have an "ice cold heart" if I object to the government stealing my wealth and property to give to someone else? I'm immoral if I find Marxist redistribution of wealth objectionable? Boy to spend a day inside the mind of one of your fascist liberals would be quite the experience.
What about redistribution UPWARDS in the form of subsidies, giveaways and other corporate welfare?? You conservatives never ***** about THAT! You just don't like helping the poor- ADMIT IT! You're as selfish as can come.
God forbid someone who has nowhere else to go who's doing his damndest to get a good-paying job after getting laid off and still can't find one get a little assistance in the form of things like UI, rather than being forced onto the street. *******...
Your whole idea that we're "taking" the wealth from 'productive' people and giving it to lazy bums is FALSE! Only a very small portion of those who receive these benefits are in that camp. You'd know if you bothered to look at actual facts and data. But conservatives and facts?
They don't go together like water and oil. And how is a simple safety net MARXIST??? That's the most widely-peddled moronic right-wing talking point! Where did Marx and Engels ever advocate a simple welfare state in a capitalist society?? TELL ME which book that's in!
I hate to break it to you righties, but ALL GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER! You can sugarcoat it however you want, but that's a fact. "Fascist liberals"? LOL
Do you even know what that term MEANS? ...Or have you been reading too much Jonah Goldberg?
Libertarans belong to the liberal camp. Even John Stossel has sais this, that libertarians are classic old school liberals. This is why I want people to stop lumping libertarians into the conservative category.
Actually, I think what Stossel DID say is that libertarians are CLASSICAL liberals, which is the old pro-freedom, anti-state definition of the term until it was reinvented by New Dealers and Democrats starting in the '30s. Get a clue, dude. Why... so... misinformed?
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