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Exactly. Libertarians and Conservatives (bless their cold little hearts) put waaay too much trust in the goodness of mankind.
Wrong, they simply disagree that government is there for the goodness of mankind. Its you liberals who suddenly think that its my responsibility to support the world.
Anyone can dredge up an anecdote to supposedly "prove" their point. I could certainly dig some up about despicable business practices; doesn't mean all businesses are despicable.
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This is awesome!
(Re: the safety net becoming a safety hammock)
Just another little ditty that doesn't mean anything, sort of like Ross Perot "looking under the hood".
Just another little ditty that doesn't mean anything, sort of like Ross Perot "looking under the hood".
More appropriate comparions, Obama creating a debt commission but not enacting any of the suggestions and then criticizing the GOP for building them into their plan..
The left's ability at reason and coherent thinking has simply vanished. I think most of the lefties here are provocateurs from other web sites. No one can be that stupid for real.
It seems like Libertarians believe that if all these safety nets are removed that the poor and disabled are just going to disappear. .[/QUOTE]
No. Libertarians believe that the poor and disabled can better be weeded out from the greedy and lazy by Local and State Governments than by Federal Government Control.
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No. Libertarians believe that the poor and disabled can better be weeded out from the greedy and lazy by Local and State Governments than by Federal Government Control.
Maybe you can show me a link from the "Libertarian Manifesto" about that. This separating federal govt. activities from local is mostly mental gymnastics by the Libertarians to justify public schools, roads (but apparenlty not interstates), welfare systems, etc. Ironically, one of the real Libertarians I know is totally opposed to public schools.
No. Libertarians believe that the poor and disabled can better be weeded out from the greedy and lazy by Local and State Governments than by Federal Government Control.
Oh so libertarians are against federal bureaucracy but are okay with local/state government bureaucracy?
Besides lots of the federal welfare comes in the form of block grants to the states and the states determine eligibility and fraud.
Maybe you can show me a link from the "Libertarian Manifesto" about that. This separating federal govt. activities from local is mostly mental gymnastics by the Libertarians to justify public schools, roads (but apparenlty not interstates), welfare systems, etc. Ironically, one of the real Libertarians I know is totally opposed to public schools.
If you dont understand thats the libertarian platform, then you dont have any right to be criticizing what you dont understand..
Do you accept the libertarian website as a good enough link for you? All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution
Wrong, they simply disagree that government is there for the goodness of mankind. Its you liberals who suddenly think that its my responsibility to support the world.
So that mean you are ready to stop sending Billions in welfare to the world, including Israel?
Casper
Oh so libertarians are against federal bureaucracy but are okay with local/state government bureaucracy?
That is how the Constitution is written.. I know, we wouldnt want to follow that 200 year old document, would we?
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Besides lots of the federal welfare comes in the form of block grants to the states and the states determine eligibility and fraud.
Those "block grants" come with federal standards and requirements, but again the libertarian platform is they shouldnt come AT ALL.. The federal government has no authority to worry about individiaul welfare of the citizens. Thats a state responsibility.
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