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Old 05-23-2011, 11:13 AM
 
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interesting reading on the rothschild dynasty and how it relates to the current fed, the jewish/palestinian issue and world wars......


Timeline of the Rothschild family
That is some fascinating reading... Especially the part about how in 1871, U.S. General Albert Pike completed his military blueprint for three world wars.

The first world war is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia,as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to forment this war.

The second world war is to be used to forment the controversy between facism and political zionism with the slaughter of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds created) and increase the power of political zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.

The third world war is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.

Kinda creepy...
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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Perhaps this will help you.

Critics Question Fed Loans To Foreign Banks : NPR

"DAVIDSON: The Bank of England, yes, and the Swiss Bank would go to the Swiss National Bank. But what we see here is the British Barclay's, for example, going to the U.S. Fed and borrowing something close to $50 billion. UBS from Switzerland borrowed close to $75 billion from the U.S. Fed.
SIEGEL: Why? Why did the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States lend to these foreign banks?
DAVIDSON: And I should say, by the way, that also some foreign central banks did lend to the - to operations of U.S. banks overseas, as well. Basically, this was two years ago, and over the course of the last two years, when the financial world was falling apart, the Fed had a whole lot of fears.
One of the biggest fears was that a bank like, say, UBS, the huge Swiss multinational, they owned billions and billions of dollars in those U.S. subprime mortgage-backed securities, those toxic assets we heard so much about. And the Fed was terrified that if UBS couldn't borrow from the Fed, they would just sell tons of those at bargain-basement prices.
Our mortgage crisis was already bad enough. If we added tens or hundreds of billions of dollars in new mortgage-backed securities just flooding the system, it would have been truly, truly disastrous."

Does this mean we own foreign Central Banks?

What pathetic reasoning.....
Still doesn't answer why those own countries central banks couldn't lend money to UBS... only proves that the British controlled "Fed" is owned by foreigners... Also, why the **** does UBS own U.S. mortgage-backed securites?...
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Still doesn't answer why those own countries central banks couldn't lend money to UBS... only proves that the British controlled "Fed" is owned by foreigners... Also, why the **** does UBS own U.S. mortgage-backed securites?...
Holy smokes you really don't know anything about the economy do you? The US is the largest economy in the world, the US dollar is the worlds reserve currency. That is why other countries look to us in times of crisis.

Anyone could own mortgage securities, the same way anyone can own US bonds.

The Fed isn't owned by foreign entities repeating it doesn't make it any more true than the last 10 times you wrote it. You have provided no evidence because none exists. Banks lendidng money to foreign coroporations doesn't mean they are owned by foreign corporations, that is some, well frankly, insane logic. I reiterate my suggestion that you seek the care of a mental health professional.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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Holy smokes you really don't know anything about the economy do you? The US is the largest economy in the world, the US dollar is the worlds reserve currency. That is why other countries look to us in times of crisis.

Anyone could own mortgage securities, the same way anyone can own US bonds.

The Fed isn't owned by foreign entities repeating it doesn't make it any more true than the last 10 times you wrote it. You have provided no evidence because none exists. Banks lendidng money to foreign coroporations doesn't mean they are owned by foreign corporations, that is some, well frankly, insane logic. I reiterate my suggestion that you seek the care of a mental health professional.
Bonds are one thing... U.S. mortgage-backed securites are something else... You sound scared...
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I think I have found reading that should be more fascinating for you.

The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories | Wired Science*| Wired.com

Why People Believe in Conspiracies: Scientific American
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Bonds are one thing... U.S. mortgage-backed securites are something else... You sound scared...

You bet I'm scared, crazy people walking the streets frighten me. OK, Please tell us why mortgage securities are any different than any other financial instument?

OK let me end the suspense for you, they are the same as any other financial istrument and traded in markets to whomever wants to buy them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage-backed_security
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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You bet I'm scared, crazy people walking the streets frighten me. OK, Please tell us why mortgage securities are any different than any other financial instument?
Why would a foreign bank want to own U.S. mortgage-backed securities?...

Now you're on CT's?...

These are all facts... You're being typically obtuse and dishonest... Your irate posts border on craziness themselves... Buddy... you need a doctor...
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:49 AM
 
Location: PA
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The FED are a group of banks its that plain and simple. The FED has no oversight of where they spend money and or how they spend money and what political and economic planning has caused these bubbles. They regulate interest rates and believe in central economic planning. The Government create the FED to print and control the money supply of which constitutionally is not allowed in the constitution. These banks which make up the FED bring about policies and benefits to the banks and government no to the American people in the long run. Having unlimited borrowing creates debt and interest on the debt which benefits banks and big government. We have the income tax which supports the FED and the IRS which enslaves the american worker to the debt with a uncontrollable government. With a central bank governments can ignore fiscal responsibility for the welfare and warfare state. A central bank promotes the low interest rates, no capital and no savings and borrowing as economic stimulus. It is not sustainable. We have a currency backed by banks, "American trust" and the only value is our land and our working force not in the physical dollar. As we lose jobs and borrow from other countries we lose our purchasing power, which brings on inflation and in the end hurts working people the most. Inflation is just as much a tax and a direct tax on your purchasing power and the cost of living. As we lose the value of our dollar it effects our entire economic system. Ron Paul points to the political and social disasters of these policies. Ron Paul is not concerned who the owners of the FED are just that central economic planning does not work. A system where the treasury department controls the money supply and take out of the hands of BANKERS and central economic planning will limit the governments power and restore PARTS of our currencywith gold and silver to stablize its purchasing power.

The more light congress sheds on the FED the more the American people will find problems and ask to return to SOUND MONEY.

This is what was said about BANKS who issue our money supply.
[LEFT][SIZE=4]Thomas Jefferson
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to
whom it properly belongs." — Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]Andrew Jackson
"If Congress has the right [it doesn't] to issue paper money [currency], it was given to them to be used by...[the government] and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations" — President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]James Madison
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance." — [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]James Madison [/SIZE]
[/LEFT]
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Why would a foreign bank want to own U.S. mortgage-backed securities?...

Now you're on CT's?...

These are all facts... You're being typically obtuse and dishonest... Your irate posts border on craziness themselves... Buddy... you need a doctor...

Huh? Why do banks trade in any financial instruments, they think they can make money!

You have presented zero facts. to support anything you have written. You say the fact that the Fed particiaptes in the world market makes them a de facto foreign entity. You also seem to think there are/should be restrictions for foreign entities to trade in our markets, there are no such restrictions.

Irate? No concerned, very concerned, that you and others who think as you, walk the streets.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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The FED are a group of banks its that plain and simple. The FED has no oversight of where they spend money and or how they spend money and what political and economic planning has caused these bubbles. They regulate interest rates and believe in central economic planning. The Government create the FED to print and control the money supply of which constitutionally is not allowed in the constitution.

These banks which make up the FED bring about policies and benefits to the banks and government no to the American people in the long run. Having unlimited borrowing creates debt and interest on the debt which benefits banks and big government. We have the income tax which supports the FED and the IRS which enslaves the american worker to the debt with a uncontrollable government. With a central bank governments can ignore fiscal responsibility for the welfare and warfare state.

A central bank promotes the low interest rates, no capital and no savings and borrowing as economic stimulus. It is not sustainable. We have a currency backed by banks, "American trust" and the only value is our land and our working force not in the physical dollar. As we lose jobs and borrow from other countries we lose our purchasing power, which brings on inflation and in the end hurts working people the most. Inflation is just as much a tax and a direct tax on your purchasing power and the cost of living.

As we lose the value of our dollar it effects our entire economic system. Ron Paul points to the political and social disasters of these policies. Ron Paul is not concerned who the owners of the FED are just that central economic planning does not work. A system where the treasury department controls the money supply and take out of the hands of BANKERS and central economic planning will limit the governments power and restore PARTS of our currencywith gold and silver to stablize its purchasing power.

The more light congress sheds on the FED the more the American people will find problems and ask to return to SOUND MONEY.
Just like what Lincoln did... He issued "Greenbacks"... U.S. Govt. issued currency...
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