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Obama has not had a legitimate paying job his entire life. HE was "given" the presidency by an electorate wanting to redeem themselves from the collective guilt of slavery which is funny since Barry has no slave heritage.
Obama has practiced law, taught law and was a state sen. and a US sen. before being elected. All of those were paying jobs.
I was wondering if some blacks in America care that Obama isn't a true African American (he is in a sense, but not an African American as in having been here for generations). No, not that he's half white, but none of his ancestors were slaves, and in a way he's just an adopted part of the black community. Ultimately it doesn't matter, I know, but it seems he's seen as more 'black' just because of the colour of his skin. A Chinese American or a White American who worked in the slums of the Chicago is just as much a part of the African American community as him, yet they wouldn't accept them as a true AA as they have Obama. Why aren't more African Americans not a bit disappointed that the first 'black' President wasn't a descendant of slaves? Wouldn't it make it far more poignant if someone like MLK had become President?
You don't have to have a slave background to have grown up being treated the same way as others who do. Just looking black was enough for society back in the 60s and 70s to treat Obama the same way as other blacks were treated back then....and sadly, many people are still being judged by skin color alone. He's "earned" his status as a black man in America, and it makes no difference that his ancestry doesn't include slaves. Plus, you're forgetting that most descendants from slave days have white blood in them as well.
Obama has not had a legitimate paying job his entire life. HE was "given" the presidency by an electorate wanting to redeem themselves from the collective guilt of slavery which is funny since Barry has no slave heritage.
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No, technically they would be South African-American and Egyptian-American.
As a person from Ireland would be Irish-American and a person from Germany would German-American; not European-American.
Well I was responding to the previous poster who included Kenya as being 'African-American'. By the same reasoning South Africa and Egypt are part of the same continent. The only way Kenyans are more like West Africans is because of their skin colour. My question is about lineage, not something as shallow as 'race', which such an arbitrary thing used to divide people. Many biologists don't even agree 'race' exists the way it's understood in popular usage.
No, there is no such thing as a 'white gene' or any one trait that all 'whites' share that no others do. There are degrees of difference. The difference between a Pole and a Japanese vs a Pole and an Irishman is relative...diversity within 'whites' and 'blacks' is as if not more important than interracial diversity. Historically language and religion tended to divide people far more than skin colour, despite what White Pride or Black Pride or any other racialist group says.
The African American heritage is about shared history and ancestry, not simply being black.
It seems that America thrives on and has always thrived on inequality.
Stick a pin in any time period in the history of America and you will see severe discrimination.
When the puritans first came to the USA to escape taxation and opposing religious beliefs in England, there was discrimination. The Native Americans were looked at as "Heathens" and even as "persona non Grata" in their own Country and so Elitism was born in the USA. This trend grew and grew and grew with the rich landowners believing that everyone else were "second class citizens" put here to serve them and to only get what the "gentry" allowed them to have. The Irish, Jews, Chinese, African Americans were here to do the Building of America while the Affluent Christan's dictated to them. Women were treated as chattel" and slavery of one kind or another ruled the nation.
In the 60's the Civil rights movement made a huge dent in this Elitism but mostly on the surface with racism still everywhere but now confined to the living rooms and boardrooms of the big companies...to gain promotion if you was black was a long hard road even after supposed desegregation... The Election of a Black President to far too many here is a 'travesty" and should never happen but luckily enough the racists can no longer control this and.... boy are they "pissed", they are beginning to see a real erosion of their "Elitism" and it scares them to death. They are beginning to see that " Anyone can make it in America" is not just their domain and is actually happening..... so how can they now keep their "Elitism" and who can they now use as "Cannon fodder', control, look down on and make themselves feel superior. Homosexuals and the poorer Americans are their new "Whipping boys".... believe me Afro-Americans are still on their list but they now have to be extremely careful about their feelings on this.
So how do the "Elite" in America now keep their 'superiority"....you got it in One..... Health care. This has now become their "poster boy" in their fight for segregation. A two tier system now governs Health Care in the USA....If you are Wealthy or have a good employment based Health Cover....you can get good treatment, if you are not wealthy, then you get basic health care or even none at all. There are now approx 46,000 deaths in the USA every year from lack of health care coverage to American Residents. This is awful at best and disgusting at worst. This is the 21st Century equivalent to racism of the past. The USA is now divided by the Health care haves and the Health care have not's...depending on how much money you have decides your fate. To say that America has Govt health care is not true. A Medicare/aid system for the elderly and ER rooms that only treat emergency care is NOT America having a Govt Health care system. Because Medicare/aid are second rate "fix it" plans they are not and can not solve all of the problems it was put into place to do. Many elderly still feel that they are asking for charity when they use Medicare/aid when really they are getting what they paid for.
Some people will argue with me all day and everyday thet the current health System in the USA is fine the way it is and 'may need a little tweeking".... Bit like saying by people, without a lung problem, that someone with lung cancer may need a little cough syrup to solve their problem and should be grateful that they are getting it.
The Health System in the USA MUST change. This is 2011 and not 1951. Years ago health cover was affordable and the premiums were normally reasonable but today the get rich quick Insurance companies and Doctors see people's health issues as their next luxury holiday or jet. If you can't afford to help with their grandiose lifestyle then you aren't worth treating. This is a bit like only being allowed to buy flowers for a loved one's grave from outside the cemetery at outrageous prices from limited designated suppliers. This is wrong on so many levels.
The USA needs a Health Service for ALL. A system financed by the Govt. 'for the people, by the people"
Why is it OK for big corporations to get Govt. money to "float them"? Why should Insurance companies have the right to decide whether you live or die based on the size of your wallet? Why should the American Health System be denied to good honest hard working Americans because they don't have "top jobs"? Why is the American Health System based on segregation?....... It shouldn't.
Why should the able pay tax for the ones unable?...... Simple.... Because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO.
I was wondering if some blacks in America care that Obama isn't a true African American (he is in a sense, but not an African American as in having been here for generations). No, not that he's half white, but none of his ancestors were slaves, and in a way he's just an adopted part of the black community. Ultimately it doesn't matter, I know, but it seems he's seen as more 'black' just because of the colour of his skin. A Chinese American or a White American who worked in the slums of the Chicago is just as much a part of the African American community as him, yet they wouldn't accept them as a true AA as they have Obama. Why aren't more African Americans not a bit disappointed that the first 'black' President wasn't a descendant of slaves? Wouldn't it make it far more poignant if someone like MLK had become President?
Wow. I'm african-american and this has to be one of the most idiotic threads I've ever come across. He's African-American regardless of whether he is full-blood. That's so freaking obvious. I can't believe you even asked this question. I think you've been hanging around one too many kangaroos out there in Austrailia.
Well I was responding to the previous poster who included Kenya as being 'African-American'. By the same reasoning South Africa and Egypt are part of the same continent. The only way Kenyans are more like West Africans is because of their skin colour. My question is about lineage, not something as shallow as 'race', which such an arbitrary thing used to divide people. Many biologists don't even agree 'race' exists the way it's understood in popular usage.
No, there is no such thing as a 'white gene' or any one trait that all 'whites' share that no others do. There are degrees of difference. The difference between a Pole and a Japanese vs a Pole and an Irishman is relative...diversity within 'whites' and 'blacks' is as if not more important than interracial diversity. Historically language and religion tended to divide people far more than skin colour, despite what White Pride or Black Pride or any other racialist group says.
The African American heritage is about shared history and ancestry, not simply being black.
And being black is part of shared history.........
Wow. I'm african-american and this has to be one of the most idiotic threads I've ever come across. He's African-American regardless of whether he is full-blood. That's so freaking obvious. I can't believe you even asked this question. I think you've been hanging around one too many kangaroos out there in Austrailia.
You are 100% right.
Some really wierd and warped views out there.
Actually, Obama's mother never went to Harvard, or even to Cambridge, apparently. Obama's father left the family in Hawaii to attend Harvard.
Then, when Obama was almost 1, his father left for Harvard to get a Ph.D. in economics. He had also been accepted to the New School in New York City, with a more generous scholarship that would have allowed his family to join him. But he decided to go to Harvard. "How can I refuse the best education?" he told Ann, according to Obama's book.
So he chose the ego gratification of having a Harvard degree over keeping his family together and providing love and guidance to his son. What a deadbeat dad! Sounds like he wanted to shake off the clingy white chick and her offspring and start anew.
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