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There have been former Presidents, VPs, major party nominees and candidates who had non-citizen parents, and none of them ever had their eligibility seriously questioned on that basis.
Tell that to my daughter or any of the other US citizens with a foreign parent... Last time I checked, my daughter was in possession of a US passport that was acquired BECAUSE she is a natural born US citizen and not because anyone filed for her to become a citizen...
Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
She is not a NATURAL born citizen, just a citizen...
Tell that to my daughter or any of the other US citizens with a foreign parent... Last time I checked, my daughter was in possession of a US passport that was acquired BECAUSE she is a natural born US citizen and not because anyone filed for her to become a citizen...
Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Take your harangue elsewhere.
We're talking about Natural Born Citizen as a qualification for the U.S. presidency.
She is not a NATURAL born citizen, just a citizen...
can you site any congressman, judge, law professor or constitutional scholar that agrees with this definition?
the law seems to disagree with you. from ankeny v daniels:
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
the only thing i want to know is why did his birth certificate say "african" when the only terms used for blacks when he was born in the state of hawaii were "negro" or "negroid."
the only thing i want to know is why did his birth certificate say "african" when the only terms used for blacks when he was born in the state of hawaii were "negro" or "negroid."
the father's race was self reported. there was no restriction on the term used.
can you site any congressman, judge, law professor or constitutional scholar that agrees with this definition?
the law seems to disagree with you. from ankeny v daniels:
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
i agree with this as long as their parents are legally in the us, with a visa or a passport or some legal document. but illegals giving birth here? no.
Regardless of where Obozo was born; Obozo is not a 'natural born citizen' because BOTH parents must be citizens...and Obozo was not a 'citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution'.
So..... ....... ....... Obozo is not Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.
Groundhog Day!
You know, hc, and all the rest of you who put forth this argument, again and again and again and AGAIN, if you were correct, Obama would never have been the nominee. His father's citizenship status was well known, long before he ever ran in the primaries.
Last edited by Katarina Witt; 06-30-2011 at 01:36 PM..
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