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View Poll Results: Do you support major cuts to Social Security and Medicare?
Yes and I lean right 13 27.08%
No and I lean right 8 16.67%
Yes and I lean left 4 8.33%
No and I lean left 23 47.92%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-24-2011, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Both programs have to be fundamentally changed. The left only has a short window to demagogue the issue. As your graph shows there will come a time when we can no longer pay for these programs.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:24 PM
 
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Both programs have to be fundamentally changed. The left only has a short window to demagogue the issue. As your graph shows there will come a time when we can no longer pay for these programs.
I'd question anybody thinks retirement bennies will survive under the status quo.

i'm sure what will happen with medicare is we will go to a single payer system...everybody in, and the gov will be the insurance provider, taxes are the premium. cost average. there's not enough young tax payers support the baby boomers in retirement. SS is another situation all together. I'm also sure there will be more means testing and some added co-pays.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Should Social Security and Medicare be cut?

No.

And I lean independent.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:23 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Default Should Social Security and Medicare be cut?

Fallacious question. Medicare as we know it is doomed under Obamacare, and it is doomed under Ryan's plan, and that is exactly how it should be. Medicare has led to taxpayers dishing out $2200 to buy $400 wheelchairs, etc., etc, etc. Medicare as we know it is doomed, period. We can't afford it and if we could, it is a stupid way to waste money. A solution will ultimately be found that provides needed care without giving a blank check to people who know how to maximize revenues.

Social Security, on the other hand, only needs relatively modest adjustments to be made sustainable. The gap between receipts and benefits in future decades is only 20%, which can be closed by adjusting retirement age a little, tweaking the COLA provision a little, etc. Anyone who is threatening major changes to SS has another agenda.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Do we have the option to dismantle compulsory labor for the benefit of another, enforced by government?
Do we ?
Or are we slaves, compelled to labor for another, under threat, duress and coercion?
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