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Actually raising taxes for everybody is a rather childish suggestion, for those who think we live in a static economy, where actions dont have consequences, and its for those who dont understand how revenues to the federal government remain rather consistant, regardless of the tax rates charged.
if you want to increase revenue to the federal government you increase the economy. If you think raising taxes is the solution to everything in nation, then tell me what you think will happen if we raise taxes to 100%? According to you, everything would be wonderful...
The left celebrating the fact that majority of americans need welfare..
That sums up the Democrats quite nicely..
The administration of George W. Bush Jr. is a perfect example of the failure of "Trickle Down Economics". The Bush Tax Cuts were basically a sugar high that did not lead to long term economic growth. In fact year over year quarterly GDP for the Bush 43 administration was the LOWEST OF ANY TWO TERM POST WORLD WAR II PRESIDENT. Also the number of Americas on food stamps increased by 50% during the Bush 43 administration and the number of Americans living below the poverty level increased by over 21%, which is also the highest rate of increase of any two terms presidential adminstration since they started keep records. Also Bush's record on job growth was the worst on record. On top of all of that the increase in federal tax revenue increase at the slowest rate of any post World War II two term President. The only people that really benefitted during the Bush 43 era where corporations and Americans at the top 20% of income earners.
The current tax burden on Americans is near 60 year lows. If the fiscal defiicit is SERIOIUSLY going to be dealt with then taxes are going to have to be raised. Even if it means raising them only on the high income earning Americans.
Nobody is suggesting taxing 100% of government but it's certainly reasonable to raise taxes back to 39% for the high income Americans.
Also corporations are making record profits. How can anybody but the most greedy or gullible continue to support subsidies for oil companines?
Democrats did a third party Perot on the Republicans like they did Angle in Nevada.
Ran with a 4 time Democrat candidate as a false Tea Party nominee which took 9% of the vote giving Democrats. This is New York, but voters need to pay more attention.
A Democrat tells everyone he's a 'Tea Party' candidate and takes 9 points from the Republican.
As usual, the Democrat candidate and the media lied about the Ryan plan.
Here is the truth. The Ryan plan does NOT affect anyone over age 55
If you are over 55 you will NOT be affected by the Ryan plan.
One more time- No one over 55 would be affected by the Ryan plan.
Remember the days when the fiscally responsible plan to trim $500B from Medicare was sold by conservatives as the cost of death bed for grandma? What were YOU screaming about back then? THAT was a far more logical step than the idea of pushing the elderly into the "charity" programs run by private health insurance companies.
Yes. That was to fund another entitlement- Obamacare.
Now, of course, the democrats say that they are not really going to do that and that Obamacare was in fact just another expensive entitlement.
The Ryan plan does NOT affect anyone over age 55
If you are over 55 you will NOT be affected by the Ryan plan. One more time- No one over 55 would be affected by the Ryan plan.
1- Why were they excluded?
2- Harry is 55 today. Paul Ryan and his GOP supporters pander to him promising him status quo. Jerry is 54 today, he is to get on a voucher program. The year is 2031. Harry is now 75, and Jerry is 74. Jerry gets a voucher. What about Harry? Special "Paul Ryan" protection?
The administration of George W. Bush Jr. is a perfect example of the failure of "Trickle Down Economics".
Bunk, when the top people in most places have the government as their senior parter in their own life you are going to get diminished returns with taxation.
Top folks often between State and Federal pay between 50-55% of their income to government. That is oppressive and not a prescription for success.
You want to lite a fire under those that and DO things in America and make jobs, you get rid of much of the Obama laws that were anti-business like the Health Care one where over 4 employees and you have another cost burden to overcome.
Also Obama added a fee to your homes from 5k up to maybe millions if you sell your home starting next year. Doesn't include the $5000 fee on people who can't afford to buy their own policy for Obama care, also in that stupid bill.
There is NO SUCH THING as a bottoms up economic prosperity, it all comes from people with capability and financing who are willing and able to make things go and hire people. As long as you F the folks with all these taxes (Bush taxes are not all that low either), you are going to see the economy sputtering along in a soft recession.
Until we get rid of all the Democrat pro-government union mentality out there to deal with instead the real world, nothing will get better. That include the stupidity of Obama increasing the national debt by 50% in under three years.
Notice Democrats have to run as make believe centrist and even here in this NY race they had to pull dirty tricks off by using a Democrat to run as a Tea Party person to siphon off 9% of the vote. I know this is NY and highly Democrat anyway, but the voters should have been better informed or known better about what was going on.
Here in CA the stupid voters put Brown back as Governor and he was the grandpa of the mess we are in to begin with. AMAZING.
A Democrat tells everyone he's a 'Tea Party' candidate and takes 9 points from the Republican.
As usual, the Democrat candidate and the media lied about the Ryan plan.
Here is the truth. The Ryan plan does NOT affect anyone over age 55
If you are over 55 you will NOT be affected by the Ryan plan.
One more time- No one over 55 would be affected by the Ryan plan.
Typical GOP mindset: "Tell the old timers that they're safe, and we'll still get their votes. They're like us. They don't care about anything but their own narrow interests. They won't even think about their kids, their relatives, and their neighbors. We don't!"
Probably because they are already too old to move to a Congress type plan. You change it for the younger ones, not disrupt the older folks set in their ways I suppose.
How would you handle this complete collapse of the system? The days of kiting government checks is nearing an end.
Typical GOP mindset: "Tell the old timers that they're safe, and we'll still get their votes. They're like us. They don't care about anything but their own narrow interests. They won't even think about their kids, their relatives, and their neighbors. We don't!"
You'd rather get the older folks who are set in their ways all emotional over change. Even a good change, a non Obama type of change is tough.
People get used to what they are used to. Now they have to get used to being on a strict budget only getting what we pay for IMO.
The Democrat days of floating government checks without funds is drawing to a close due to insolvency. What is your better idea?
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