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BirchBarlow, please learn the first "rule" message board etiquette: Know your subject before you brazenly post. Besides sounding like a complete jerk, you showed your incredible lack of knowledge regarding SS and Medicare and seniors. How embarrassing for you.
My mother, who is 67, just retired. She has worked full-time since she graduated from high school in 1962. She has paid into SS and Medicare the entire time. Do you think she should not be able to draw upon it now?
My mother has her own private health insurance that she pays for yet she is FORCED to run everything through Medicare first. That is how the SYSTEM works. Don't be mad at the senior citizen for this. She would prefer not to have to deal with Medicare, but it's the rule. Whatever, most seniors love it and have paid into it.
Because respect and care for elders has been enshrined in almost every society in history. It takes different forms, yes, but your post flies in the face of millennia of social teaching.
I certainly don't treat older people (that aren't related to me) as "sacred" just because they're older...you have to earn respect to be respected. And some have no respect for or immediately dismiss and generalize anyone under the age of 35.
But those who paid into the system deserve every benefit they receive in return. I certainly want every penny I've paid when I reach 65.
What exactly is it that makes someone infallible or a saint just because they reach the age of 65? Why is it that when someone reaches this age, they're automatically entitled to free money from the taxpayers? People act like old people are infallible because they're "seniors". What the hell does their "seniority" have to do anything? Sure, in their younger days, some were good people (e.g. military vets who actually deserve the benefits they receive), but a lot were bastards then, they're bastards now, and they're in the situations they're in due to their own poor choices (pissing all of their money away instead of saving for retirement, living unhealthy lifestyles, etc.). So why is it I, the taxpayer have to carry people on my back just because they reach the magical age of sixty-five? I have to subsidize them through social security so they can go down to the casinos in AC, Vegas, Philadelphia Park, etc so they can **** away my money in the slot machines? (I have to pay for their retirement while at the same time saving for my own because by the time I reach retirement age, SS will be insolvent.) I have to subsidize them through medicare because they pissed all their money away, smoked, drank, and ate unhealthily, or better yet when they go to a doctor just because they feel lonely and want someone to talk to? Why the hell, is it my problem? If they can't help themselves let their children help, or private charities. Why do I have to carry them on my back just because they lived to be 65? Discuss.
Because that is the way this system works. Today's workers pay for today's retirees. Those that are retired paid for the generation before them.
If you want to get mad..get mad at the welfare moms, foodstamp babies and SSDI teenagers who will be funding YOUR retirement.
Don't be mad at those that have worked and contributed to society and are now retired; be mad at those sucking everything they can from the government and not contributing.
Be mad at Congress who "borrowed" the monthly surpluses SS had each and every month for decades. They can't nor will they ever pay it back.
What exactly is it that makes someone infallible or a saint just because they reach the age of 65? Why is it that when someone reaches this age, they're automatically entitled to free money from the taxpayers? People act like old people are infallible because they're "seniors". What the hell does their "seniority" have to do anything? Sure, in their younger days, some were good people (e.g. military vets who actually deserve the benefits they receive), but a lot were bastards then, they're bastards now, and they're in the situations they're in due to their own poor choices (pissing all of their money away instead of saving for retirement, living unhealthy lifestyles, etc.). So why is it I, the taxpayer have to carry people on my back just because they reach the magical age of sixty-five? I have to subsidize them through social security so they can go down to the casinos in AC, Vegas, Philadelphia Park, etc so they can **** away my money in the slot machines? (I have to pay for their retirement while at the same time saving for my own because by the time I reach retirement age, SS will be insolvent.) I have to subsidize them through medicare because they pissed all their money away, smoked, drank, and ate unhealthily, or better yet when they go to a doctor just because they feel lonely and want someone to talk to? Why the hell, is it my problem? If they can't help themselves let their children help, or private charities. Why do I have to carry them on my back just because they lived to be 65? Discuss.
Because after all your Playstations and iPhones, after you've blown your parents money trying to make it on American Idol, after you've mooched off your parents for the 7 years it took you to get your associates degree, after you've wrecked all of their cars and still asked them to help you with a down payment on your "first" car they just don't have a whole lot left and god forbid they starve to death because...
...after all your Playstations and iPhones, after you've blown your parents money trying to make it on American Idol, after you've mooched off your parents for the 7 years it took you to get your associates degree, after you've wrecked all of their cars and still asked them to help you with a down payment on your "first" car...
Well, since our government is by for and of the people, we're unfortunately responsible for allowing the crony crooks in Washington to rob the trust funds blind.
Why do I have to carry them on my back just because they lived to be 65? Discuss.
I think you are barking up the wrong entitlement tree.
You ought to be more concerned with the lousy education the younger generation is getting and how the entitlements that will go to the uneducated and undereducated masses will suck you all dry in the form of entitlements when you all are adults. Compare the academic ranking of the US vs other countries in 1969 versus 2011. On average, comparatively speaking, you are all too dumb and non-competitive to do anything but whine about being a have-not. Putting the high school drop outs aside for a moment, even those of you who thought you were academic hot stuff (grade inflation) in high school are sitting in remedial classes at college and you didn't even know you were undereducated. Why aren't you all mad about that? The public schools are turning out nincompoops. You are eventually going to have to support (with your tax dollars) the dumb adults that can't read, can't write, can't speak English, can't find the US or the Pacific Ocean on a map, skipped the "hard" math and science classes that could land better jobs and/or didn't graduate at all. They are all entitlement receivers in the making and none of the generation (that would be those of you who did work through a "challenging" high school and college and didn't think competition was a dirty word) that is going to have to pay for the masses of them being churned out by the education system today seem to be worried about it. Why aren't you all screaming about your peer doofuses that you will eventually be forced (by your government) to support with your tax dollars?
But hey, at least you all will know everything there is to be known about multiculturalism, tolerance and social justice.
You need to rise up against your lousy education because in a few short years from now there will only be two kinds of people, the bloodsuckers and the idiots that support them.
I pay into medicare and social security every paycheck, and I plan on using them when I retire. If I shouldn't be able to use them, then they shouldn't be taken out of my check.
What exactly is it that makes someone infallible or a saint just because they reach the age of 65? Why is it that when someone reaches this age, they're automatically entitled to free money from the taxpayers? People act like old people are infallible because they're "seniors". What the hell does their "seniority" have to do anything? Sure, in their younger days, some were good people (e.g. military vets who actually deserve the benefits they receive), but a lot were bastards then, they're bastards now, and they're in the situations they're in due to their own poor choices (pissing all of their money away instead of saving for retirement, living unhealthy lifestyles, etc.). So why is it I, the taxpayer have to carry people on my back just because they reach the magical age of sixty-five? I have to subsidize them through social security so they can go down to the casinos in AC, Vegas, Philadelphia Park, etc so they can **** away my money in the slot machines? (I have to pay for their retirement while at the same time saving for my own because by the time I reach retirement age, SS will be insolvent.) I have to subsidize them through medicare because they pissed all their money away, smoked, drank, and ate unhealthily, or better yet when they go to a doctor just because they feel lonely and want someone to talk to? Why the hell, is it my problem? If they can't help themselves let their children help, or private charities. Why do I have to carry them on my back just because they lived to be 65? Discuss.
For one, that 65 year old person worked all their life and paid into a system and are getting paid back. The only taxpayer money they are receiving is their own.
Secondly, they vote. Politicians pay attention to their voters, most of the time thats elderly Americans.
When I turn 65 just cut me a check for all of the money I've paid into it and you won't hear from me ever again.
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