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Old 05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Speleothem View Post
Waivers? What waivers?
I thought this thread was about attacking Fox.
Ready. Aim. Shoot the messenger!

That is the ONLY way that obama can campaign this time around, since he has one of those pesky "track records" now.

The compliant MSM will do it for him.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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Wade: Instead of bashing the source why don't you try to debunk the content?

That's rhetorical btw....
I got better things to do than to go down point for for point so I will just highlight one.
"One example is the National Labor Relations Board general counsel's action to prevent Boeing from building a $2 billion assembly plant for the 787 Dreamliner in South Carolina, which has a right-to-work law barring compulsory union membership. The NLRB says Boeing has to assemble the planes in non-right-to-work Washington state."

The NLRB's general counsel's decision does not prevent Boeing from building a plant in South Carolina. The decision instead requires that the work contracted by Boeing for the assembly the 787 with the International Association Machinist remain in the present plants in Washington, and Oregon because of a finding by the NLRB that the sole reason for the move was to retaliate against the IAM for exercising their rights under the National Labor Relations Act.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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This guy is no bomb thrower. Obama is losing moderates.

Obama skirts rule of law to reward pals, punish foes | Michael Barone | Politics | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/05/obama-skirts-rule-law-reward-pals-punish-foes - broken link)

"Punishing enemies and rewarding friends -- politics Chicago style -- seems to be the unifying principle that helps explain the Obamacare waivers, the NLRB action against Boeing and the IRS' gift-tax assault on 501(c)(4) donors.
They look like examples of crony capitalism, bailout favoritism and gangster government.
One thing they don't look like is the rule of law."
"Chicago style politics"- yeah, that sounds REAL moderate.

As far as Boeing vs the NLRB... you guys are so used to 30 years of GOP and GOP-Lite Admins (Carter thru GWB) that you react with shock and horror when a federal agency actually gets off its ass and does its job.

Boeing execs are ON RECORD bragging about transplanting jobs to SC to punish the union for its lawful activities back in Washington. If this is true, it is a flagrant violation of federal law.

The NLRB held off on leveling the charge for as long as it could, granting Boeing delay after delay, and opportunities to defend its actions. But in today's anti-labor environment, I guess Boeing felt secure enough to
blow them off.

However things turn out, I like to see us getting our money's worth out of a government agency. If that's "Chicago style politics" we need more of it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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"Chicago style politics"- yeah, that sounds REAL moderate.

As far as Boeing vs the NLRB... you guys are so used to 30 years of GOP and GOP-Lite Admins (Carter thru GWB) that you react with shock and horror when a federal agency actually gets off its ass and does its job.

Boeing execs are ON RECORD bragging about transplanting jobs to SC to punish the union for its lawful activities back in Washington. If this is true, it is a flagrant violation of federal law.

The NLRB held off on leveling the charge for as long as it could, granting Boeing delay after delay, and opportunities to defend its actions. But in today's anti-labor environment, I guess Boeing felt secure enough to
blow them off.

However things turn out, I like to see us getting our money's worth out of a government agency. If that's "Chicago style politics" we need more of it.

Well you have swerved into the truth, there is nothing moderate about Chicago politics. The NLRB is clearly a radical anti business move. No wonder the economy is in the tank!
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Obama now lost a ton of Jews, had lost the Whites who took a chance on him and also a ton of Independents and no longer has electable numbers without lots of fraud IMO. I mean 6 points worth of fraud nationally.

He's going down IMO and maybe this story explains in part why.
Preparing your "fraud" case a little early, huh?

Obama has lost the "whites who took a chance on him?"???

What the heck is that supposed to mean?
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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I won't even begin to try to explain anything.

I'm just enjoying the spittle-spewing right wing outrage.

Of course you won't explain anything because you can't. You, as a citizen, should be outraged, yet you are so partisan that you are blinded to common sense.

1. Obamacare is so flawed that its major proponants- Reid and Pelosi- account for 25% of all Obamacare exemptions NATIONALLY.

2. Obamacare exemptions are given to union organizations and political allies of Obama, showing the deep corruption of the administration.

3. The granting of exemptions to political allies shows that Obama believes that Obamacare will hurt buisnesses forced to participate in the plan.


It is all pretty clear- Obamacare is a job killing failure that is a joke to even those who "voted for it so they could find out what was in it".
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Gone
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No how about you debunk the O.P.
Nope it not up to me to debunk wild arse claims, it is their job to prove them to be true through the use of facts and proof and they get a great big FAIL on that.
Casper
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default irrational?

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It doesn't take a desperate attempt to discredit obama, he does it himself every time he opens his mouth..
Hard to understand how anyone could support the dirty b@stard, he is so corrupt and intent on destroying our country, and you cheer him on as he does it...
Vote for obama if you hate your country as much as he does... Open your eyes man, he is a dangerous person and must be stopped...
FOX is the only creditable news source, if you think otherwise, you can't intelligently discuss any issues.. So just sit back and watch how the good guys do it...

You're very upset.
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Of course you won't explain anything because you can't. You, as a citizen, should be outraged, yet you are so partisan that you are blinded to common sense.

1. Obamacare is so flawed that its major proponants- Reid and Pelosi- account for 25% of all Obamacare exemptions NATIONALLY.

2. Obamacare exemptions are given to union organizations and political allies of Obama, showing the deep corruption of the administration.

3. The granting of exemptions to political allies shows that Obama believes that Obamacare will hurt buisnesses forced to participate in the plan.


It is all pretty clear- Obamacare is a job killing failure that is a joke to even those who "voted for it so they could find out what was in it".

You're very upset, too.
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Another foxnews generated controversy for the mouth breathers to leach on to, YAWN.
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