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Old 05-25-2011, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The GOP should probably take a look at this.
Maybe you should research the difference between Medicaid and Medicare.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I'd have to go dig it up. It was referenced in a thread here on C-D and it was from the census.

It's not exactly 60% though so hard to just google.
I did find 2009 numbers which are about 46% and do have the breakdown:

Big government on the brink: Expectations that can't be met | Deseret News
"Few Americans realize the extent of their dependency. The Census Bureau reports that in 2009 almost half (46.2 percent) of the 300 million Americans received at least one federal benefit: 46.5 million, Social Security; 42.6 million, Medicare; 42.4 million, Medicaid; 36.1 million, food stamps; 3.2 million, veterans' benefits; 12.4 million, housing subsidies. The Census list doesn't include tax breaks. Counting those, perhaps three-quarters or more of Americans receive some sizable government benefit. For example, about 22 percent of taxpayers benefit from the home mortgage interest deduction and 43 percent from the preferential treatment of employer-provided health insurance, says the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. "
Thanks for finding the link. Including S.S., Medicare and veteran benefits in a figure titled "government aid" is misleading in my opinion. When I think of government aid I'd include Welfare, Wic, food stamps housing subsidies---any program where the recipients haven't paid into the program. So your earlier post saying that "60% of Americans are receiving government aid in one form or another" doesn't sound so bad when you break it down as per your link.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Syracuse IS Central New York.
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Just about everyone is either related to or knows a senior citizen that is receiving Social Security and Medicare benefits. So that figure really should be closer to 100%.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I don't have any personal ties to Medicaid. None of my friends or family members are/have been on Medicaid. However, the majority of the patients I see at work are Medicaid recipients. Medicaid is a racket. The average person would be amazed at the level of benefits it affords compared to what private insurance pays for.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:11 PM
 
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^^^God didn't make any trash!
Trash is how trash behaves. It is a life choice.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:12 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I don't have any personal ties to Medicaid. None of my friends or family members are/have been on Medicaid. However, the majority of the patients I see at work are Medicaid recipients. Medicaid is a racket. The average person would be amazed at the level of benefits it affords compared to what private insurance pays for.
Exactly why we need a universal health care program in this country that isn't profit motivated and they can put all their cash reserves into patient care. That's not a "racket" that Medicaid patients can get more than private insurance companies pay. The latter has stockholders and CEOs who all need a cut of the profits. Medicaid doesn't need to show a profit.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:12 PM
 
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Just about everyone is either related to or knows a senior citizen that is receiving Social Security and Medicare benefits. So that figure really should be closer to 100%.
Not quite the same. Working people have had FICA and SS taxes removed from their paychecks or paid themselves as independent contractors or self-employed for decades upon decades. Benefits are earned, entitlements are given (and demanded).
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Exactly why we need a universal health care program in this country that isn't profit motivated and they can put all their cash reserves into patient care. That's not a "racket" that Medicaid patients can get more than private insurance companies pay. The latter has stockholders and CEOs who all need a cut of the profits. Medicaid doesn't need to show a profit.
Yeah, haha no need to be cost effective or accountable when using the taxpayers' money. People with no skin in the game get far better health benefits than those paying for coverage. Nope, not a racket.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The GOP should probably take a look at this.
My guess is a similar percentage have personal ties to the DMV, so what?
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thanks for finding the link. Including S.S., Medicare and veteran benefits in a figure titled "government aid" is misleading in my opinion. When I think of government aid I'd include Welfare, Wic, food stamps housing subsidies---any program where the recipients haven't paid into the program. So your earlier post saying that "60% of Americans are receiving government aid in one form or another" doesn't sound so bad when you break it down as per your link.
No matter what you label the payment it's still a scary number of people that are relying on government money/program/whatever to exist.
Only 40% of Americans are able to exist on their own with no government involvement. What happens when the cuts come and they will ?
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