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Old 05-26-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Say what?

Do trees cause global warming? - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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The tree idea is crazy, but so is this from the Pew Center's Jay Gulledge (from the link):

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Jay Gulledge, a senior scientist at the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, said Rohrabacher is correct that 80 to 90 percent of gross greenhouse gas emissions do come from nature, with humans producing the rest. But it's that small percentage that is changing the Earth's climate...

Read more: Do trees cause global warming? - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com
It's that certainty some well-credentialed people have about it that makes me skeptical. Meteorological models are not that precise. Hell, we can't even forecast 5 days in advance with the certainty that this statement was made.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:14 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The only thing that should be chopped down is idiots like Rohrabacher.
Why is it that anyone even listens to people making statements about things they know nothing about? That guy has a degree in American history (a typical subject people pick who lack what it takes to become scientists), he is no environmental expert or anything.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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But even without such fools humans are just too stupid to act, which is backed up by the most recent IEA report on CO2 emissions for 2010:
http://www.iea.org/index_info.asp?id=1959 (broken link)
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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Lawmakers need remedial science classes.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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THis idiot doesn't have enough neurons synapsing to grasp that those trees are also a sink for CO2. Nor did he have enough understanding to grasp that the soil in rainforests does not contain enough nutrients to sustain growth of anything beyond the native vegetation for more than a couple of years. Yes, rainforests are lush, but the nutrients are not in the soil, it's in the massive amounts of detritus from falling leaves and other decaying organics. That's precisely why when rainforests are cleared for farming the crops can only be grown for a few years. The soil eventually hardens like cement.

Who voted for this idiot?
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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Lawmakers need remedial science classes.
You assume that they took basic science classes in the first place.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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You assume that they took basic science classes in the first place.
Good point. But seriously, this makes my blood boil. I have children and these fools think it's cute to thumb their noses at protecting the environment. I can't wait until this current crop of know-nothings are out of power.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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THis idiot doesn't have enough neurons synapsing to grasp that those trees are also a sink for CO2. Nor did he have enough understanding to grasp that the soil in rainforests does not contain enough nutrients to sustain growth of anything beyond the native vegetation for more than a couple of years. Yes, rainforests are lush, but the nutrients are not in the soil, it's in the massive amounts of detritus from falling leaves and other decaying organics. That's precisely why when rainforests are cleared for farming the crops can only be grown for a few years. The soil eventually hardens like cement.

Who voted for this idiot?
Indeed. Rotting dead plants (and animals) are an important part of the whole cycle, lots of small animals, bacteria, etc. need them to survive. It is not waste of the kind modern humans produce. It's simply food and fertilizer.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Lol, it is unfortunate how clueless the global warming crowd is.

Trees implicated in greenhouse gas conundrum

An unexpected and startling discovery that plants emit millions of tonnes of greenhouse gas methane every year has plunged climate change discussions into disarray.

Trees and plants emit up to 30 per cent of the world's methane, Frank Keppler at the Max Plank Institute for Nuclear Physics,*Heidelberg,*Germany, and his colleagues claim. After discovering that fallen leaves, or plant litter, produced methane, Keppler investigated whether living plants also produce this highly reduced gas in air - an oxygen rich environment. He calculated that plants give off between 60 and 240 million tonnes of methane per year.

The news has shocked the atmospheric science community. 'I'm still amazed that people haven't seen it before,' said David Lowe, from the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research,*Wellington,*New Zealand. 'You wouldn't expect methane to come from plants and the air. You won't find any chemical reaction that people know about that would do that.'

Eat a cow, help thke environment.

Sources and Emissions | Methane | Climate Change | U.S. EPA


"In the United States, the largest methane emissions come from the decomposition of wastes in landfills, ruminant digestion and manure management associated with domestic livestock, natural gas and oil systems, and coal mining."
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