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Old 05-27-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: North America
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I will dedicate myself to the Democratic Party when:

1) The Democratic party is led by its own version of the Tea Party that demands limited, Constitutional government and respect for personal freedoms.

2) A rock-solid plan to erase the national debt

3) A balanced budget

4) A strong national AMERICAN defense (one that doesn't send its troops to another country to protect THOSE citizens)

5) A recognition that the strength of this country is predicated on the strength of her businesses and those who are most productive (I'm not talking about the corporations that sell out America like GE and AIG). Full employment depends on strong demand generated by strong income. America is at its most powerful when the private sector is strong.

When the above five things happen you can say goodbye to the Republican party forever.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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I will dedicate myself to the Democratic Party when:

1) The Democratic party is led by its own version of the Tea Party that demands limited, Constitutional government and respect for personal freedoms.

2) A rock-solid plan to erase the national debt

3) A balanced budget

4) A strong national AMERICAN defense (one that doesn't send its troops to another country to protect THOSE citizens)

5) A recognition that the strength of this country is predicated on the strength of her businesses and those who are most productive (I'm not talking about the corporations that sell out America like GE and AIG). Full employment depends on strong demand generated by strong income. America is at its most powerful when the private sector is strong.

When the above five things happen you can say goodbye to the Republican party forever.
The last time the federal budget was balanced and we were running a surplus, not a deficeit, which conceivably could have lead to paying down the national debt, was under Clinton. Also, the last president to send up into a foreign country was a Republican. Democrats are also pretty pro-business friendly. No kidding, I think you're interests are best served by the current Democratic party, based on what you've written here.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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I will dedicate myself to the Democratic Party when:

1) The Democratic party is led by its own version of the Tea Party that demands limited, Constitutional government and respect for personal freedoms.

2) A rock-solid plan to erase the national debt

3) A balanced budget

4) A strong national AMERICAN defense (one that doesn't send its troops to another country to protect THOSE citizens)

5) A recognition that the strength of this country is predicated on the strength of her businesses and those who are most productive (I'm not talking about the corporations that sell out America like GE and AIG). Full employment depends on strong demand generated by strong income. America is at its most powerful when the private sector is strong.

When the above five things happen you can say goodbye to the Republican party forever.
With the exception of #3 the better question is...WHEN HAS EITHER PARTY....but nice try with the selective questions to demostrate your partisan allegience
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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With the exception of #3 the better question is...WHEN HAS EITHER PARTY....but nice try with the selective questions to demostrate your partisan allegience
Why would #3 be an exception?
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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The last time the federal budget was balanced and we were running a surplus, not a deficeit, which conceivably could have lead to paying down the national debt, was under Clinton. Also, the last president to send up into a foreign country was a Republican. Democrats are also pretty pro-business friendly. No kidding, I think you're interests are best served by the current Democratic party, based on what you've written here.
Bush invaded Libya?

Clinton was kicked dragging and screaming into a temporary surplus. After he cheated on his wife, lied point-blank to the American people and lied to a Federal Grand Jury resulting in his impeachment, he didn't exactly have the political capital to say, "no" to the Republican demands for fiscal sanity.

Saying the Democrats are pro-business friendly is like saying Arnold Schwarzenegger is a faithful husband.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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With the exception of #3 the better question is...WHEN HAS EITHER PARTY....but nice try with the selective questions to demostrate your partisan allegience

#1 & #2 are happening RIGHT NOW in the GOP.

The People are demanding #4 &#5 and the Republicans are the only party that will even allow the thought.

Where are the Democrats on these issues?

Oh, yeah...

Tax the **** out of "The Rich™" and all of our myriad problems will fall away like rose petals in a gentle breeze.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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Why would #3 be an exception?
Balanced budget under clinton was a bi-partisan effort. All others on the OP list has not occured in my lifetime that i'm aware of. Both parties have spent us into debt over the last 20 years so I really don't see the point...
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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There's less waste and overhead in Medicare than in private insurance.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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The last time the federal budget was balanced and we were running a surplus, not a deficeit, which conceivably could have lead to paying down the national debt, was under Clinton. Also, the last president to send up into a foreign country was a Republican. Democrats are also pretty pro-business friendly. No kidding, I think you're interests are best served by the current Democratic party, based on what you've written here.
Wrong again.

Clinton did NOT have a balanced budget. Why on gods earth do people believe the lies they are told? If you dont believe me, go to the US Treasury website, and look at the national debt during the Clinton presidency.. It went UP every single year.

The last time we had a surplus was 1969, which was $3.2B, and before that 1960 at $300M
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Bush invaded Libya?

Clinton was kicked dragging and screaming into a temporary surplus. After he cheated on his wife, lied point-blank to the American people and lied to a Federal Grand Jury resulting in his impeachment, he didn't exactly have the political capital to say, "no" to the Republican demands for fiscal sanity.

Saying the Democrats are pro-business friendly is like saying Arnold Schwarzenegger is a faithful husband.
clb, I don't know why I bother talking politics anymore because people are just so locked into rigid, ill informed sides. It's like gang warfare -- reds attack blues, blues attack reds, just because.

You said you support a strong American defense. Well, it's not the Democrats who have gotten us into foreign wars as of late. (Obama invaded Libya? Um, no. He didn't. Back to the point, we both know the 100,000+ U.S. troops deployed in the Central Command Area of Responsibility weren't put there by a Democrat.)

As far as the balanced budget, again, um no. Clinton comes from the pro-business, fiscally responsible wing of the Democractic party which is much larger than any other wing. I know the cartoons on Fox make it sound as if the Democrats hate business, but it's just not true ... not even a little. It's akin to saying that Republicans support the KKK. They just don't.
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