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Old 05-28-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Americans HAVE to give up their privacy so that our government can catch terrorists.
It's that plain and simple.

Your life will become an open book on servers all over the world for anyone to look at.

And as the left says.."If you're not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about."

Well it may not be wrong today..but what if they decide it's wrong tomorrow ?
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Americans HAVE to give up their privacy so that our government can catch terrorists.
It's that plain and simple.

Your life will become an open book on servers all over the world for anyone to look at.

And as the left says.."If you're not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about."

Well it may not be wrong today..but what if they decide it's wrong tomorrow ?
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
BF
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
BF
I agree. The government will never be happy with the current level of security..they will always "need" the next level to stay ahead of the bad guys.

We are all now suspect. Don't believe it..just enter a Federal building or airport or some train stations or in one case..a prom !

It's becoming accepted to be scanned and frisked and patted down..ever so slowly.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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"Should our Constitution be sacrificed for good intentions?'

Yes, we don't need no constitution. It's only used by bad people to hide behind.
It only prevents the government from arresting bad and unpatriotic people.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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I agree. The government will never be happy with the current level of security..they will always "need" the next level to stay ahead of the bad guys.

We are all now suspect. Don't believe it..just enter a Federal building or airport or some train stations or in one case..a prom !

It's becoming accepted to be scanned and frisked and patted down..ever so slowly.
I got instinctual movements, kinda like physical Tourette's syndrome.

Comes from the conditioning of growing up in Flint, Michigan.

I don't think I could make it through a pat down without harming someone.
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Old 05-28-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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Coming to a town near you.

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Old 05-28-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Illegal immigration, for instance.

As a human being, I see why people come here illegally.

As an American citizen, I say "get them the hell out of here....illegal means illegal!".

Why doesn't our government follow the Constitution?
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."-Daniel Webster

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."-C.S. Lewis
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."-Daniel Webster

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."-C.S. Lewis

Worth repeating. Great post!
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Old 05-28-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."-Daniel Webster

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."-C.S. Lewis
If only people would learn this stuff!
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Old 05-28-2011, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Canada
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If only people would learn this stuff!
People learn?! Hey, if it's not woven inside an episode of "reality" television, then the majority want no part of it.
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