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The topic is not about what party is more fiscally responsible, because we would have to see the budget of each city.
The topic is "Why don't rightwingers live where they claim is better"
By your own OP, they are living in areas that are "better", unless you think the ghettos are better
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Originally Posted by calibro1
That's the point. The suburbs exist in part due to government spending, esp. on infrastructure and oil subsidies. Republicans deride government spending and then drive on government funded roads and drive massive vehicles that use oil from companies that receive subsidies and then send their children to public schools. It's absurd.
Those subsidies you are talking about, you mean the subsidies the oil companies pay to the government, to help fund these things right? We've already debunked the lies that oil companies are receiving subsidies
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Originally Posted by Savoir Faire
If it wasn't for government intervention, the burbs wouldn't exist, at least not to the extent they do today. Do you really think a private corporation would spend millions of dollars in road nfrastructure for a few thousand customers?
Actually a lot of infrastructure is financed through tax increment funding, which actually is paid by the private corporations, to benefit the region, specificially the government.
The OP did not mention welfare, crony contracts, and labor unions.
Mental gymnastics, perfect 10! Government is government.
If government is government, then government spending is government spending. The thread is about government spending, so it does make sense to discuss what the spending is spent on
I understand that taxes are taxes, no matter who you are paying them to. To try to twist your brain to believe otherwise is folly.
No, not folly. To think that taxes are just taxes is grossly simplistic thinking.
Not to be rude, but I don't have the time or energy to explain the differences between local and federal taxation and why these differences are important.
I understand that taxes are taxes, no matter who you are paying them to. To try to twist your brain to believe otherwise is folly.
wrong, taxes arent taxes regardless who is paying for them.
There is a big difference between me expecting YOU to pay for MY community.. If you think its all the same, I'll provide you with the address of our local tax office, you are free to send in your donation
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Originally Posted by whatyousay
No, not folly. To think that taxes are just taxes is grossly simplistic thinking.
Not to be rude, but I don't have the time or energy to explain the differences between local and federal taxation and why these differences are important.
One would think that those old enough to be posting here, would know the difference.
No, not folly. To think that taxes are just taxes is grossly simplistic thinking.
Not to be rude, but I don't have the time or energy to explain the differences between local and federal taxation and why these differences are important.
I"m not stupid, than you very much. Taxes are taxes. This "local taxes are different" is a meme invented by RWs who actually want some tax supported services, and are trying to figure out how to justify them.
Every single day I hear republicans preaching about the greatness of "Smaller government" and "Less government spending".
When I drive through the republican area (suburbs) of any city, I notice that republicans tend to live in the areas with the highest government spending:
Extra wide roads, extra bright street lighting, extra wide sidewalks, etc, etc.
Then I drive through the areas where the government spends little money (ghetto) and I bet you would never see a republican in that area:
narrow roads with potholes and sitting water, no sidewalk, almost no lighting, etc, etc.
If republicans love "small government" and "low government spending"
why don't they live in the areas where you find that?
Epic fail. With no stats to back up your silly claim this just another whiner with facts, just hate for people who don't agree with you.
That's the point. The suburbs exist in part due to government spending, esp. on infrastructure and oil subsidies. Republicans deride government spending and then drive on government funded roads and drive massive vehicles that use oil from companies that receive subsidies and then send their children to public schools. It's absurd.
Here is your chance to practice what you preach. do NOT buy use or support Any businesses that get ANY kind of subsidies.
Numerous flaws
1) just because the blighted areas are ghettos, it doesnt mean there is less spending going on, its just spent differently. Rather than spending for things like lights, they are spending on housing, welfare.
2) Things like street lighting, sidewalks, are LOCAL expenditures, and if conservatives choose to pay for these things, and they choose to request them, then whats your complaint?
3) Sidewalks in most of the country is funded by the property owner.
Your own posting points out the flaws in liberalism which is funny considering you were trying to bash conservatism.. haha
..."sidewalks are funded by the property owner?"....
Having owned four houses in 20 years , I've never paid for the sidewalk.
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