Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-28-2011, 05:12 PM
 
19,226 posts, read 15,321,408 times
Reputation: 2337

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
Though probably meant as a joke you are actually pretty much on target. Part of the reason the bagpipe was adopted by the Scottish (& later British) militaries was because of their psychological impact. En mass they do indeed sound pretty frightening.

Ken
Thank you.

Coulda gotten a confession out of Noriega with the proper application of bagpipes
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-28-2011, 05:15 PM
 
6,205 posts, read 7,460,466 times
Reputation: 3563
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
If you look at ever musical genre in American music, you will hear influences from black people. All American music including Country have African roots.
OK... So?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Maryland
7,814 posts, read 6,392,163 times
Reputation: 9974
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
If you look at ever musical genre in American music, you will hear influences from black people. All American music including Country have African roots.
Contributing to and creating are 2 different things. The post should read Did blacks help create the American sound.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
20,460 posts, read 26,330,678 times
Reputation: 7627
Quote:
Originally Posted by ergohead View Post
Thank you.

Coulda gotten a confession out of Noriega with the proper application of bagpipes
That's about right.
I actually REALLY LIKE bagpipes and have been to see the Black Watch (twice) when they came around on tour - but I will FREELY admit that SOMETIMES a bagpipe can sound like someone is skinning a cat alive (or at least how I would IMAGINE that would sound).



Ken
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas
31,290 posts, read 20,740,494 times
Reputation: 9325
Quote:
Originally Posted by tfs985 View Post
I wasn't refuting that point.

The one genre that has absolutely no African influence (and is probably the most technically proficient genre) is classical music. Most Americans are too uncultured to realize Bach, Beethoven, and Tchaikovsky ever existed though.

That's a pretty narrow definition of culture.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 05:51 PM
 
9,961 posts, read 17,524,172 times
Reputation: 9193
Quote:
Originally Posted by HurricaneDC View Post
Yeah if you go back far enough. Even a mathcore band probably finds its roots/influences in some other metal bands, who found their roots in earlier metal bands, who found their roots in hard rock bands, who found their roots in blues, etc etc.

But this doesn't sound particularly "black" (whatever that means)


YouTube - ‪The Dillinger Escape Plan - 43% Burnt‬‏

e: AC/DC's Let There Be Rock comes to mind: "The white man had the schmaltz / the black man had the blues"
Quote:
Originally Posted by dorado0359 View Post
I doubt if heavy metal, hard rock and goth have any African roots.
Heavy metal and hard rock came out of the blues-based and R'n'b based rock of the late 60s. All it took was a distortion pedal and crapload of drugs to turn Howlin' Wolf and John Lee Hooker into Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. And Jimi Hendrix came out of the r'n'b circuit(he played with the Isley Brothers)but ended up pioneering and providing a lot of the framework for distorted guitar playing that would transform rock. Even Black Sabbath, which created the early template for darker heavy metal, still had bluesy solos and even a harmonica on it's debut record. By the early 80s, much of the blues influences had been stripped out by bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden in favor of a heavier dissonance. By the time you get to thrash metal like Metallica and Slayer, it's something else completely different--to speak nothing of the more extreme forms. And there's other musicians in metal more influenced by classical music even in the scales used for solos, than anything in the blues.

Same thing with punk rock though--the Ramones stripped out blues solos in favor of non-stop power chords, but the Sex Pistols and Clash were still aping Chuck Berry style riffs and solos in the late 70s. But by the time you get to early hardcore punk, it mutated into a more straight ahead heavy rock sound. Since the 70s though rock music has had different degrees of flirtation with the black styles of the times.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 06:11 PM
 
80 posts, read 42,025 times
Reputation: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadking2003 View Post
That's a pretty narrow definition of culture.
I'm going to use some logic here. I stated that most people in America are too uncultured to realize the existence of Bach, Beethoven, etc.

In no way shape or form was this statement a "definition of culture". Music is one (of many) aspects of culture.

If you deduced that I was defining culture with that statement, you probably aren't the sharpest tool in the shed! Peace!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 06:13 PM
 
80 posts, read 42,025 times
Reputation: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonaos View Post
Well, Non Africans are part Neanderthal, that has been proven with DNA testing...So if modern humans were able to breed with Neanderthals then that leads to other questions as to where "humans" originated.
I think that is another viable theory. Non-African's possess between 1-4% Neanderthal DNA. These are just theories though. Nobody can say with 100% certainty that homo sapiens came from Africa or not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 06:15 PM
 
25,157 posts, read 53,947,295 times
Reputation: 7058
The only bad music the blacks innovated is rap.

Hip hop, soul (gospel), blues, rock, tribal, dance, funk, disco, etc are all fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
If you look at ever musical genre in American music, you will hear influences from black people. All American music including Country have African roots.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2011, 06:18 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
8,396 posts, read 9,442,882 times
Reputation: 4070
Default Did Blacks Create The American Sound?

Well, all of the stuff I like (jazz, blues, rock) is definitely black music.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:53 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top