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Old 05-29-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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Christian Extremists are now (praise Jesus!) a minority I think. If you believe the only life that has value and will be saved by God in the afterlife is one that worships like you do (or very, very similarily to you), then you're an extremist. Those Christains who respect other traditions and who realize that they don't have all answers on theological matters seem to be the majority in America.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Poplarville, Mississippi
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You don't have to go to church to be a christian. And please explain what you do on a day to day basis to 'follow the bible'. I think most people who consider themselves REAL christians just like to talk about how others aren't, thats the only difference. I also think if you are talking about behavior then I would out-christian everyone, and I'm agnostic.
I can bet you that if you took a survey of rich, suburban, soccer moms who took their families to church a few times a year and then just completely ignored religion until the next time they went to church, and asked them if they felt that they lived a Christian life, almost all of them would say no. Christianity is not just about calling yourself one, it is about enriching your life through it, and using religion to get through rough times, and becoming more enlightened.


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Most Christians have never even read or studied their Bibles (hence why they make so many inaccurate claims on what it says in the original languages). Having a pastor tell you what to believe doesn't make you a real Christian either.
So true. I find that many non-Christians like to bash us real Christians as being hateful and quick to point out things. They are not even Christians so what do they know!

And as to what someone said about "Christianity is stupid in believing in a 'fairytale' world", what do you believe in? It is not about believing in a fairytale world, but believing that there is something higher (and lower...) than yourself, and to try to do what is better to make you a better person. Do you honestly think that we have no souls and that when we die it's just like 'poof' and were gone from eternity? I believe that our souls DO get judged and we will either go to the higher place (Heaven) or the lower place (Hell). It is all about believing in something greater than yourself.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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A lot of conservative Christians feel the need to push their views and way of life onto others. When people push back, they feel like they're being threatened.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Part of their perception comes from what they see on tv or in movies. Hollywood is very anti-Christian. They use to make movies in which terrorist included Muslims but after 9/11 they seem to go out of their way to show Muslims as not being terrorist. The same consideration isn't given to Christians. Example: an episode of Cold Case had a group of Christian students stoning to death a fellow student,...nevermind the fact that Christians of today don't do this but Muslims do. The blatant hatred towards Christianity shown here is obvious. But I don't see the same hatred towards Muslims from these individuals.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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Again, that is a product of the liberalization and perversion of Christianity as well as the meaning of marriage. The divorce rates are only separated by fractal percentages yet you'll pull that out as if it's making a case against religion. You can't divorce someone you're living out of wedlock with, and this is a part of the equation that is coveniently ignored.

As a whole the citizenry have been lowering the bars of civil behavior for most of the last hundred years. Look at politicians, all of them, and tell me we haven't gone backwards. Don't blame religion just because you aren't religious, blame the human condition for that is something none of us can distance ourselves from.
Liberalism of Christianity? The United States is the most Conservative Christian majority on the planet. We don't have anywhere near the amount of liberals as the rest of the 1st World. (Incidentally, those countries have much better quality of life and peace ratings).
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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A lot of conservative Christians feel the need to push their views and way of life onto others. When people push back, they feel like they're being threatened.
Really? A lot? Out of the millions of Christians across the country, how many actually came up to you and tried to convert you? What particular denomination were they? I've had a few come to my door. I politely listen and tell them thank you but no thanks, have a nice day. They've all thanked me and moved onto the next home. If it's very hot and they're obviously sweating then I invite them in for something cold to drink while they cool off.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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So true. I find that many non-Christians like to bash us real Christians as being hateful and quick to point out things. They are not even Christians so what do they know!

And as to what someone said about "Christianity is stupid in believing in a 'fairytale' world", what do you believe in? It is not about believing in a fairytale world, but believing that there is something higher (and lower...) than yourself, and to try to do what is better to make you a better person. Do you honestly think that we have no souls and that when we die it's just like 'poof' and were gone from eternity? I believe that our souls DO get judged and we will either go to the higher place (Heaven) or the lower place (Hell). It is all about believing in something greater than yourself.
I'm not a non-believer MM. I'm a Messianic Jew. I just think Conservative/Fundamentalist Christianity is destroying the message of Christ and making no one want anything to do with it.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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Part of their perception comes from what they see on tv or in movies. Hollywood is very anti-Christian. They use to make movies in which terrorist included Muslims but after 9/11 they seem to go out of their way to show Muslims as not being terrorist. The same consideration isn't given to Christians. Example: an episode of Cold Case had a group of Christian students stoning to death a fellow student,...nevermind the fact that Christians of today don't do this but Muslims do. The blatant hatred towards Christianity shown here is obvious. But I don't see the same hatred towards Muslims from these individuals.
Probably because most posters are from the USA, where 80% of the population is Christian, and Muslims make up an extremely tiny minority.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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Really? A lot? Out of the millions of Christians across the country, how many actually came up to you and tried to convert you? What particular denomination were they? I've had a few come to my door. I politely listen and tell them thank you but no thanks, have a nice day. They've all thanked me and moved onto the next home. If it's very hot and they're obviously sweating then I invite them in for something cold to drink while they cool off.
They don't have to come to your door to force their views on you. Most of them try to do it through the legislative and legal system by turning this country into a Theocracy.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Very true. Look at the fall of the Roman Empire for example. Decadency and hedonism eventually took over and destroyed their civilization.
Which is ironic considering it happened shortly after they adopted Christianity, then twisted it into Roman Catholicism which the vast majority of current Christian organized denominations are derived from today.
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