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Old 05-29-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Thanks. Jesus was only marginally interesting in anything political, realizing that humans are humans and political structures will evolve over time and the rest of us must deal with it. His message was one of spiritual liberty that establishes the "kingdom of Heaven" within the individual heart. Applying modern political terminology to his mission in life is as disingenuous as it gets.



The LW has made a mockery of the word "liberal" and is now doing the same thing to the word "progressive".
It's Beck and his acolytes that have made "progressive" a four letter word.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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It's Beck and his acolytes that have made "progressive" a four letter word.
Disagree. First the LW took a word rooted in "liberty" ("liberal") and turned it into a negative (for millions) and now they are doing the same thing--taking a word rooted in the word "progress" and turning it into a negative. "Liberty" and "progress" are good words that have positive meanings for all of us. Can't say the same for the words "liberal" and "progressive".
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Disagree. First the LW took a word rooted in "liberty" ("liberal") and turned it into a negative (for millions) .
For millions of idiots. You can thank Republicans, Rushie Limbaugh and FOX News, for starters.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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For millions of idiots. You can thank Republicans, Rushie Limbaugh and FOX News, for starters.
Most of us clear-minded and common sense conservatives don't need right wing pundits to tell us what lefties are doing to destroy the country. We can see it throughout the left wing media with their left-leaning slant on everything that happens.

Why doesn't the left just stick to something like "Democratic Socialists"--a clearly political term--instead of taking innocuous words like "liberal" and "progressive" to whitewash themselves and their nefarious agendas?
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Most of us clear-minded and common sense conservatives don't need right wing pundits to tell us what lefties are doing to destroy the country. We can see it throughout the left wing media with their left-leaning slant on everything that happens.

You think you can. I say again, you think you can.

But you can't, because hard core conservatives (those who blame the problems of this country on "lefties") are one of the most clueless groups of people in this country.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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So are Satanists.
Same coin?
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's Beck and his acolytes that have made "progressive" a four letter word.
its not beck

its history

hilter and mussolini were progressives

the progressive movement started in the 1880's

its the movement of marx, and engle..its the root of socialism, and fascism

Progressivism is a self destructive force that is created to oppose the principles of

1. individual rights
2. personal liberty
3. free speech
4. free commerce
5. minimal interference from the federal government


In short, the progressive movement goal is to create a world similar to "1984", in which the populace are serfs and the government is the only entity that matters. Liberals and progressives pine to sacrifice thier personal freedom for the "comfort" and "security" they feel can be provided by the state. It is the road to slavery and is currently walked and promoted by fools who have digested the propaganda. It is much like the "worker's paradise" promised by Lenin and Stalin as well as the "people's state" of Castro. Wonderful places to live, huh? They bought into the same lines of BS from the progressives.


How about reading “Brave New World” again…..Better yet, “1984″, to get a better taste of the future. Or try something more modern view the German film, “The Lives of Others”.


The same American Left is censoring the word “Marxist” when describing the Marxist agenda of the Obama administration. In a recent brief discussion with a thoughful and usually deep thinking conservative, he bristled at the idea that one should use such a negative term to describe the Obama crowd…..he and others preferred “Social Democrats”….the word Dennis Prager prefers to identify those who wish to replace individual liberties, private enterprise, social, art, language, education, entertainments, television and otherwise, publishing, editing, writing of any kind, and the rest of human life, activity and expression under the aegis of government micromanagement.


"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them." .....Joseph Stalin

"We cannot leap into world government through one quick step.... The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units." .....Zbigniew Brzezinski (advisor to Carter, bush1, clinton and obama)



"...in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty." One aspect of American sovereignty that is being yielded is ownership of American companies by Americans. In the first 9 months of 2007, 69 companies in New England alone have been sold to foreign buyers. Nationally, the French company Alcatel bought Lucent Technologies in the U.S., and in September 2007 announced it will be cutting thousands of jobs.

"We cannot leap into world government through one quick step.... The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units." .....Zbigniew Brzezinski (advisor to Carter, bush1, clinton and obama)



Article Six of the U.S. Constitution states that 'all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.'



Because international treaties supercede national law, Fast Track has allowed an enormous restructuring of U.S. law without resorting to a Constitutional convention.... As a result, national sovereignty of the United States has been severely compromised.....the NAU is coming....



March 15, 2010

In an interview with Rachel Maddow Thursday evening, Pelosi asked Americans to "think" about a bright, new, liberating kind of utopia:

""Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer, a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance. Or that people could start a business and be entrepreneurial and take risks, but not be job-locked because of a condition. You name it, any condition is job-locking.""


and compare it with this:


"“As soon as the distribution of labor comes into being, each man has a particular, exclusive sphere of activity, which is forced upon him and from which he cannot escape. He is a hunter, a fisherman, a herdsman, or a critical critic, and must remain so if he does not want to lose his means of livelihood; while in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic.”"...........Carl Marx, in 1846



interesting

the problem here isnt your view of 'progressiveness' its the politicians that your 'party' supports
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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You think you can. I say again, you think you can.

But you can't, because hard core conservatives (those who blame the problems of this country on "lefties") are one of the most clueless groups of people in this country.
We can.

"Yes, we can!!" (Where have I heard that one before?)

We are not "clueless". We see and think clearly. It is the lefties who want to impose (operative word, impose) their agendas upon society when clearly millions do not want such quick and radical changes shoved down their throats.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Same coin?
No. The Satanist "coin" is made of lead. The Christian "coin" is made of gold.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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Jesus was a Liberal.
Evidence please.
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