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Old 06-02-2011, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Most of the time, no.

Can a 6 year old decide if he wants to wear the green shoes or the blue shoes, yes. Can he decide where he wants to go to school, no. Will he decide when he goes to the Dentist, no. Can he decide if he needs an Apendectomy, no.
So deciding whether to play with a truck or a Barbie doll or whether to wear pink or blue, do you think that falls into the realm of what a child should be able to decide for itself or does it need an adult who knows better?
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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I have mode no assertion of any Christian conspiracy.

A 5,000 year old Egyptian culture does little to prove your claim of 100's of 1000's of years
You created the claim, not me. I corrected you already. And I provided you an example of the distinction between boys and girls thousands of years old.

I suppose we could extend that to the days of the cave man ... the hunter/gatherer history of humans ... are you at all familiar with the term "Hunter-Gatherer'? Yes ... gender roles ... the males hunted and the females gathered. It's an anthropological reality. I can only speculate that the children were taught these skills too ... the boys taught one skill, and the girls another.

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So you are in complete agreement with the family. A child should choose. That is the entirety of the discussion here.

Except the other side of your face says:
There is no other side ... I'm very consistent. I'm in complete disagreement with those moron parents.

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So, which is it?
Are children capable of making important decisions about themselves or are they not?
At 4 months old ... 2 years old ... 5 years old ... no.

Are they old enough to pick a toy out of a pile which they would like to play with ... yes.

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If playing with trucks and dolls is 'inbuilt into the DNA' then to what purpose this entire thread? The parents would have as much luck asking their child to generate a 3rd eye as they would to have their child play with the 'wrong' toy
Ultimately, the purpose of this thread has nothing to do with what these parents will do to their unfortunate children. But this thread does effectively identify the sad fact that these moronic parents are not alone in their mental illness.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:55 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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So deciding whether to play with a truck or a Barbie doll or whether to wear pink or blue, do you think that falls into the realm of what a child should be able to decide for itself or does it need an adult who knows better?
It depends on the age of the child. Usually parents shop for clothes without the kids input when they are very young. Size is the most important part of the purchase. Often, you don't have a choice on color, you get what's on sale. Kids cost lots of money. You aren't usually going to get rich if you have kids.

My kids like the Gators, as do I, my grandson wears lots of orange and blue.
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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There is no other side ... I'm very consistent. I'm in complete disagreement with those moron parents.
Except when you agree with them.

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It's inbuilt into the DNA, and manifests naturally in little boys and little girls ... left to their OWN CHOICES
All the parents are doing is allowing the children to make their own choices minus as much outside influence as possible.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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Except when you agree with them.



All the parents are doing is allowing the children to make their own choices minus as much outside influence as possible.
You can twist and spin all you want to support your own opinion .... but you're going way too far when you try to claim I agree with you when I absolutely declare that I do not.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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You can twist and spin all you want to support your own opinion .... but you're going way too far when you try to claim I agree with you when I absolutely declare that I do not.
Do you believe that:
A) The child and family should make choices regarding a child's upbringing
or
B) Society at large, whom parents may not agree with, should make choices regarding a child's upbringing

The family chooses A.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How the hell is this a Liberal position??? It's a little strange, in my opinion, to let your child "choose" his/her gender. I thought that gender was a physiological determination. I think it would be more accurate to say that the parents are attempting to let the child drive the direction of his socialization.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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How the hell is this a Liberal position??? It's a little strange, in my opinion, to let your child "choose" his/her gender. I thought that gender was a physiological determination. I think it would be more accurate to say that the parents are attempting to let the child drive the direction of his socialization.
I think you're thinking about sex. Do you not differentiate between gender and sex?
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