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Old 05-30-2011, 04:45 PM
 
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Netanyahu (http://truthout.org/netanyahu%E2%80%99s-border-war/1306592212 - broken link)


It seems that the Israelis are not as unified as some have contended.


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Tel Aviv - Binyamin Netanyahu’s furious rejection of US President Barack Obama’s proposal to use the 1967 borders as the basis for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute – frontiers that he called “utterly indefensible” – reflects not only the Israeli prime minister’s poor statesmanship, but also his antiquated military philosophy.

Unfortunately, Israel today has a prime minister with the mentality of a platoon commander who nonetheless likes to cast himself as a latter day Churchill fighting the forces of evil bent on destroying the Third Jewish Temple. Of course, a great leader must always have a sense of history. But, as the French philosopher Paul Valéry put it, history, “the science of things which are not repeated,” is also “the most dangerous product which the chemistry of the intellect has ever evolved,” especially when manipulated by politicians. [end quote]
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Old 05-30-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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[quote=Evenstar51;19373363]Netanyahu (http://truthout.org/netanyahu%E2%80%99s-border-war/1306592212 - broken link)


It seems that the Israelis are not as unified as some have contended.


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Tel Aviv - Binyamin Netanyahu’s furious rejection of US President Barack Obama’s proposal to use the 1967 borders as the basis for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute – frontiers that he called “utterly indefensible” – reflects not only the Israeli prime minister’s poor statesmanship, but also his antiquated military philosophy.

Unfortunately, Israel today has a prime minister with the mentality of a platoon commander who nonetheless likes to cast himself as a latter day Churchill fighting the forces of evil bent on destroying the Third Jewish Temple. Of course, a great leader must always have a sense of history. But, as the French philosopher Paul Valéry put it, history, “the science of things which are not repeated,” is also “the most dangerous product which the chemistry of the intellect has ever evolved,” especially when manipulated by politicians. [end quote]
Obama threw Jews and Israel under the bus and someone expects them to agree with Obama's shenanigans? I don't think so.
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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Netanyahu (http://truthout.org/netanyahu%E2%80%99s-border-war/1306592212 - broken link)


It seems that the Israelis are not as unified as some have contended.




Obama threw Jews and Israel under the bus and someone expects them to agree with Obama's shenanigans? I don't think so.

You should have read the article...it was written by an Israeli in Tel Aviv.
Clearly that indicates that not all Israelis agree with Netanyahu. And Obama wasn't the first...were you so upset when Bush '43 said the same?


YouTube - ‪Bush called for pre-1967 Israeli borders‬‏
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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A Different Take On Netanyahu
Same take, still wrong.

Daled Amos: New Poll: Israelis Back Netanyahu On Settlements--But Not Overwhelmingly
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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Translation:

Q: Do you want more land?
A: Duh.

I don't think there's anyone in the world who would answer differently. Wanting doesn't make you a rightful owner though. The colonial era idea of conquest has given way to the idea of self-determination. People who think that you can simply roll in and claim anything as yours would be better suited to living in another century. This explains why world sentiment is the way it is on the issue.

The Israelis would be wise not to go the way of South Africa in pursuing a policy that, while popular amongst their own people, is wildly unpopular enough in the outside world hat it makes them an international pariah. That would certainly be no benefit to them and their interests anymore than losing a few settlements would be.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Israel has been unable to live in peace since thousands of years before Islam. Endless life and death disputes over this olive grove or that water hole. Aiding one side only makes you the others enemy and soon they are both mad at us. No foriegn aid to anyone
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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[quote=Evenstar51;19373363]Netanyahu (http://truthout.org/netanyahu%E2%80%99s-border-war/1306592212 - broken link)


It seems that the Israelis are not as unified as some have contended.


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Tel Aviv - Binyamin Netanyahu’s furious rejection of US President Barack Obama’s proposal to use the 1967 borders as the basis for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute – frontiers that he called “utterly indefensible” – reflects not only the Israeli prime minister’s poor statesmanship, but also his antiquated military philosophy.

Unfortunately, Israel today has a prime minister with the mentality of a platoon commander who nonetheless likes to cast himself as a latter day Churchill fighting the forces of evil bent on destroying the Third Jewish Temple. Of course, a great leader must always have a sense of history. But, as the French philosopher Paul Valéry put it, history, “the science of things which are not repeated,” is also “the most dangerous product which the chemistry of the intellect has ever evolved,” especially when manipulated by politicians. [end quote]
"What a crock". Netanyahu faced down Obama and his oversimplified and immature understanding of the problem and made Obama look like a child in a bull riding contest.

We need more world leaders like Net. to tell the world the way it is. We do not have to install a democracy in the middle east as long as we have Israel and we don not have to defend her she can defend herself. Why don't the pseudointellectual academics in this country that have never served anything but themselves and their greatest claim to fame is the poisoning of our childrens minds ...get it!
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:30 PM
 
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Oh...btw, those that have a sense of history, i.e. for instance that have read the bible understand the area has always been the homeland of the jews the same as the palestinians. If the juews should give up that homeland why shouldn't we give America back to the Indians. Tehn again maybe that is what we are in the process of doing.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:32 PM
 
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Israel has been unable to live in peace since thousands of years before Islam. Endless life and death disputes over this olive grove or that water hole. Aiding one side only makes you the others enemy and soon they are both mad at us. No foriegn aid to anyone
I agree. America being mediator in a dispute when it furnishes the military of one of the disputers is preposterous. I say we clean our hands totally and make Palestine a state so that it can contend its case legitimately in the UN and International Courts, since its abundantly clear that Netanyahu is not serious about land swaps.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:35 PM
 
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"U N and International courts" ...alrighty then!
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