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Since part of the reason they would need welfare is because they can't hold a job because they're an addict, I don't have a problem with that. Seems counterproductive to give welfare to drug addicts.
To test randomly, I agree with you. To test as a condition for handing someone money they applied to get, is a different issue.
What part of the Patriot Act?
Government service is a service, it ain't a charity. As for the Patriot Act, all of it, the general concept of, and of course how it infringes on the fourth amendment. Perhaps I should ask, what part(s) of it do you like?
What a great idea! Now Florida citizens who sign up for welfare will have to prove that they are not using before being allowed to collect welfare. As might be expected there is a hue and cry from the state's liberals about it being an invasion of privacy and unconstitutional. As a taxpayer in Florida or anywhere else I don't see any problem with not handing money over to citizens who are taking funds that should be going to their children and buying drugs. Why should taxpayers subsidize drug usage? If people have enough money to buy drugs then they have enough money to pay their own bills and don't need my tax money to do so.
This is a terribly narrow minded idea. Do they also screen for golf clubs and tennis rackets? After all, I don't want my tax money going to poor people who spend that money on golf or tennis.
So you think coke-cola, pepsi, coffee, cigs, and alcohol are food stamp or welfare $$ well spent? Just because their legal? Talk about
Did I say they were?
Dont attempt to put words in my mouth.
Of course, if you would like to move to FL and personally pay for all the tests, by all means feel free to do so.
You do realize there is caffeine in many OTC pain meds, and I see you miserably failed to comment on the false positives of hand sanitizer.
What would you like to ban next?
Midol?
Theres caffeine in that, too.
No one seems to be able to answer that, nor has the question been answered on whom will administer said tests.
In light of Scotts history, that in itself is highly suspect.
Did I say they were?
Dont attempt to put words in my mouth.
Of course, if you would like to move to FL and personally pay for all the tests, by all means do so.
What exactly where you implying then? Why exactly are you for testing? Is it to prevent frivolous spending among people on assistance? Or is it to possibly prosecute a cross section of the population?
I think regulated testing like this in any fashion is wrong; If I where in Florida, I would strongly oppose this.
Edit - I think we might be on the same page and I miss read your statement, I just re-read it all.
No one seems to be able to answer that, nor has the question been answered on whom will administer said tests.
In light of Scotts history, that in itself is highly suspect.
I remember reading the cost to be over $20 million. And quite a chunk of it should make it to businesses like Solantice that Rick Scott had co-founded, which will be administering these tests.
What exactly where you implying then? Why exactly are you for testing? Is it to prevent frivolous spending among people on assistance? Or is it to possibly prosecute a cross section of the population?
I think regulated testing like this in any fashion is wrong; If I where in Florida, I would strongly oppose this.
I sure as hell do not wish to pay for these tests, but I have the feeling we will be.
ETA: Yes, we are on the same page on this!
IIRC, drug tests done for private businesses are less than $50, I think closer to $25. Run the program for 6 months or so and see the results. Does eliminating welfare payments to inelligable people (drug users) save more than the cost of testing. Shouldn't be that hard to do the math.
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